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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [jaesee75edmund] by dc_driver
Jul 24, 2006 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: jaesee75edmund (Jul 23, 2006 6:43 pm)

wow, jaesee75edmund, we had almost the exact same experience (I owned a 99.5 Jetta VR6 that had nearly the same, if not more, problems that you had).
 
I now own a Mazda3, and love the car. I recently drove a VW Rabbit (4dr auto) and, while I liked the interior, there is no comparison between the Mazda3 and the VW when it comes to performance and handling. The VW's electronic power assisted steering feels numb compared to the 3's handling. Like you though, my biggest concern for folks cross shopping these vehicles would be VW's previous reliability issues with the Golf/Jetta (both cars share many of the same parts).
 
I think that VW missed the boat by not offering the TDI engine in this car until 2008. If the Rabbit could achieve 40mpg highway, it would have stole sales away from the likes of Mazda, Toyota, and Honda.
 
My advice to anyone shopping these two vehicles is to drive them back-to-back. There is simply no comparison with regards to the driving experience, the 3 blows the Rabbit away (unless you like numb steering and roll when cornering)....
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Mazda3 Vs. Rabbitt Price by aviboy97
Jul 24, 2006 (2:52 pm)
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I just priced out a Mazda3 S Touring 5-door with the moon roof/6CD package in 5-speed Vs. the VW Rabbit 4-door hatch with side impact airbags, sun roof and 17" alloys.
 
Mazda $19,065 MSRP
VW $20,329 MSRP
 
That's quite a difference in price. Take it as you wish.
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mazda vs vw by clownfishfunk
Jul 24, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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I test drove both cars and thought they were rather similar. Both handled well, and both were my two top choices. I ended up with the rabbit because I liked the look of the hatch better on the rabbit than the mazda, and I also liked the interior better. The rabbit was also available with the extra options that I wanted at the dealer. Unlike what many people have said, the people at my VW dealer were very nice and helpful with my questions and the purchase, so that did not factor into my decision. I've had the car for about a month now and have had no problems it, and am quite pleased with my decision.
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Re: mazda vs vw [clownfishfunk] by dc_driver
Jul 24, 2006 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: clownfishfunk (Jul 24, 2006 3:12 pm)

"Unlike what many people have said, the people at my VW dealer were very nice and helpful with my questions and the purchase, so that did not factor into my decision."
 
I did not have a problem with the VW sales team. I had a problem with the service department and customer service.
 
I do like the fact that you drove the 3 and the Rabbit and picked the vehicle that was best for you. It would be a boring world if everyone drove nothing but Rabbits or nothing but 3s.. Choice is a good thing
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [jmnapp] by carfanatic007
Jul 24, 2006 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: jmnapp (Jul 10, 2006 6:24 am)

Huh? You must be joking! The Mazda 3 is rated extremely well by all publications in handling, reliability, etc. The Mazda 3 is made in Japan. You can get a loaded Mazda 3 2.3 with leather, etc for the same price as a Rabbit. I would take the Mazda 3 in a heartbeat!
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [carfanatic007] by moparbad
Jul 25, 2006 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jul 24, 2006 9:18 pm)

The Mazda 3 is made in Japan.
 
Despite all of the recent recalls of Japanese built cars, the Mazda 3 is still an excellent choice. Do not let the fact that it is built in Japan scare you away. Most of the recalls have been by Toyota anyway.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by aviboy97
Jul 26, 2006 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 25, 2006 3:26 pm)

Despite all of the recent recalls of Japanese built cars, the Mazda 3 is still an excellent choice. Do not let the fact that it is built in Japan scare you away.
 
Statistically, Japanese cars are the most reliable. Just because a manufacturer announces a recall does not mean the vehicle is unreliable. Toyota has had the most recalls lately, however, I do not think it will tarnish their name.
 
GM and Ford have had huge recalls this year as well.
 
Mazda has been fortunate to not really have any recalls, except for the preventative one placed on the Mazda5 back in September.
 
The Mazda3 has not had any, and it's way to soon for the VW Rabbit to have any. I also believe the 2.5 5 cyl. is a new engine for them? Am I correct?
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [aviboy97] by moparbad
Jul 26, 2006 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 26, 2006 8:55 am)

I also believe the 2.5 5 cyl. is a new engine for them? Am I correct?
 
No you are not correct, the 2.5 5cyl is new only to North America, it has been offered for several years outside of North America.
 
Statistically, Japanese cars are the most reliable. Just because a manufacturer announces a recall does not mean the vehicle is unreliable. Toyota has had the most recalls lately, however, I do not think it will tarnish their name.
 
Statistically, for North America, Toyota has had more recalls per vehicle than Daimler Chrysler. Interesting trivia.
I agree that a recall does not determine reliability and has greater affect on perception.
 
My point is this, recent posts in many topic concerning the Rabbit and VW in general imply that reliability is determined by country of manufacture are incorrect and ridiculous. Japan = Very Reliable
 Mexico = Unreliable Germany = Somewhat Reliable
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by dc_driver
Jul 26, 2006 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 26, 2006 9:26 am)

"My point is this, recent posts in many topic concerning the Rabbit and VW in general imply that reliability is determined by country of manufacture are incorrect and ridiculous."
 
The problem with Mexico stems from when both Ford and VW started building cars there. There were serious process and quality control issues and it made the press. From what I have read this is no longer an issue in Mexico and in some cases Mexican quality is even better than the quality of some US manufacturing plants. Point is that the damage was done initially and many people still associate Mexican build quality as being bad.
 
As for the German perception I think this stems from well documented reliability issues with both VW and Mercedes Benz recently. Perhaps VW and Mercedes have cracked down and have resolved some of these issues, but it takes time to restore your image. Look at Hyundai. They have really improved across the board for quite a few years, and many people still associate Hyundai build quality with the Hyundai Excel problems...

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