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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Recommended VW Rabbit tops in Consumer Reports hatchback comparison [go by aviboy97
May 28, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: 600kgolfgt (May 15, 2008 9:25 pm)

"It is not wise to purchase an automobile (from any manufacturer) early in the production cycle"
 
That is not accurate. There are many mfgrs that you can purchase a vehicle from in its first few model years and have little no issues. Most of the Japanese makes have little issues in their first few years, where as German brands tend to have numerous issues not only in their first years, but many years afterward.
 
I will say, credit is due to VW for improving their product.
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Early adoption by autonomous
May 28, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 28, 2008 8:15 am)

There are many mfgrs that you can purchase a vehicle from in its first few model years and have little no issues. Most of the Japanese makes have little issues in their first few years
 
Last year Consumer Reports showed that even the venerable Toyota and Honda companies experience more issues in their initial production years than in the second, third or following years. As a consumer, it seems like a wise strategy to wait until the early adopters test out the new releases.
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Re: Early adoption [autonomous] by aviboy97
May 28, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (May 28, 2008 9:03 am)

They showed that Toyota was venerable, not Honda.
 
If you as a consumer think it is wise to wait until the 3rd or 4th year of production on a particular vehicle, that is ok. Most cars tend to have a few issues in their first couple years. My point was that the German makes are so much more suseptable to problems then Japanese cars are, and since you brought up CR, they also agree with my statement.
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CR by hpowders
May 29, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Consumer Reports recently published a hatchback comparo (as linked in a previous post) and the VW Rabbit S automatic 4 door won. They listed this vehicle as having better than average reliability and is their top pick of the small hatchbacks.
 
Because of the CR recommendation, I placed an order for one. What I have found is you can wait forever to get this car if you order it the way you want it. VW really must improve their distribution system.
 
THIRTEEN WEEKS??
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Re: CR [hpowders] by aviboy97
May 29, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (May 29, 2008 8:49 am)

That's nothing compared to Mazda. To get a Mazda3 from the factory, you are looking at about 16 weeks.
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Re: CR [aviboy97] by hpowders
May 29, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 29, 2008 9:34 am)

That's pretty bad.
  
I have a leased vehicle due back July 31st. I e-mailed my VW sales guy this morning to give me a definite commitment on an ordered Rabbit by June 5th, or I have to walk. The guy didn't ask me for a deposit yet and he took my order two weeks ago. He won't ask me for a deposit until he knows for sure he can get me the vehicle. I hear VW isn't building any more 2008's, so there is a real possibility he won't be able to get it for me.
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Re: CR [hpowders] by roadburner
May 29, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (May 29, 2008 9:46 am)

Well, you are still better off than me. The VW dealers in the Louisville area aren't the least bit interested in ordering cars for customers. That's one of the reasons I wound up with a Mazdaspeed3.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [dougjp] by myershift
Oct 14, 2008 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: dougjp (Jul 08, 2006 11:29 am)

Having driven both of these vehicle types (Mazda3 and Volkswagen Rabbit (Golf)) back to back, I can give a educated opinion on both and why I chose the VW.
 
I first drove the Mazda. It featured the 5-speed manual and 2.3L I-4. It was a fun car to drive, well equipped, and nicely peppy. The styling inside and out is sharp, sexy (for a compact) and modern. Materials used in the cabin were nice enough but the LED strip in the stereo head unit was gimmicky.
 
Then I drove the Volkswagen. It felt more solid and substantial as well as feeling of a more mature car. Its manual transmission also had a more connected and mechanical feel. Styling is subdued but pleasing, with easy entry seats into the rear of the 3-door model.
 
I did return to drive the Mazda, and that sealed the deal for me to get the VW.
The Mazda is a noisy little bastard of a fun car but has far too much commotion for my tastes and felt like a cheap tin can compared to the Volkswagen Rabbit.
 
Also, in my 2008 VW Rabbit witht he 170hp 2.5L 5-cylinder engine, I average at least 26 mpg and have seen up to 31 mpg on the Interstate.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [myershift] by autonomous
Oct 16, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: myershift (Oct 14, 2008 9:24 pm)

my 2008 VW Rabbit witht he 170hp 2.5L 5-cylinder engine, I average at least 26 mpg and have seen up to 31 mpg on the Interstate.
 
These are unimpressive numbers for a small car using a manual transmission.
 
The Mazda is a noisy little bastard of a fun car but has far too much commotion for my tastes and felt like a cheap tin can compared to the Volkswagen Rabbit
Bizarre, this description of the Mazda3 seems to defy all previous evaluations of the car.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [autonomous] by bodble2
Oct 16, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Oct 16, 2008 2:01 pm)

"These are unimpressive numbers for a small car using a manual transmission."
 
Borrowing football parlance, I actually think the Rabbit is a bit of a tweener --- even though in exterior dimensions it seems to compete with cars such as the Mazda3 and Civic, in terms of engine size & output, and interior room and amenities, and overall refinement, it almost can be compared to the next size segment, the 4 cyl versions of the Legacy, Accord, Mazda6, etc. If view in that vein, then its mpg is not too disappointing. Just like the Mini, even though it is a small car, I don't think fuel economy has ever been its top priority.

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