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Hatchbacks Mazda3 Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit
389 messages, Last post on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 26, 2007 12:34 pm) the rabbit is a quieter more comfortable riding car, but it still has some sporting pretensions and its balanced perfectly in that sense. It does feel more solid on the road as well, at least when i compared the two on the highway. looking at the spec sheet on the comparo you posted shows that while the mazda did excel in these fields, it is proven that rabbit was quieter and has a bigger top speed and better top gear acceleration than the 3. So they both have their strengths and weaknesses. your car does not have to have the best 1/4 mile or 0-60 time to make it win ' hands down' in your book. 
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 27, 2007 8:02 am) First, it's not my car  Second, I was replying about how he said the Rabbit was a better performer. Actually, he said it was "superior", especialy in acceleration. I pointed out that a comparo was done that showed the Mazda won in those categories.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 27, 2007 8:16 am)  come on avi how old are you? obviously you knew what i meant; when i said 'your' car, i mean 'ones' car, not that YOU have a mazda 3. He wasn't going on and on about the superior performance in the rabbit; he said he noticed 'some superiority in acceleration' and in acceleration only. even this could mean the generous feeling of torque and not so much 'its quicker to 60!'. The other ways he felt the rabbit exceled were with regards to the feel on the road, and the quiet cabin.
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 27, 2007 8:24 am) I'm a rebel teenager who has nothing better to do with my day then play on the internet!  I'm just havin' fun with you, eldaino!!
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 27, 2007 8:34 am) I'm just havin' fun with you, eldaino!!  i know i know, its so easy to get me started! its cool bro.
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You should all keep in mind the inovation and technology in modern day cars is initiated in Germany not Japan. The Japaneese know how to duplicate. They are copy cats. I owned a Gti 2.5 V5 for Four and a half years and had over 125K miles on it. It still drove the same as the day I bought. I currently own a 2005 Tocoma Double cab that I bought in Nov 2004 here in Texas it is by far the worse car that I have ever owned, it only has 18500 miles, I still have two prolems since I bought it that Toyota dont have a fix for and dont even want to fix. I have even hired a lawyer now and as you all know this is a car that won the 2005 Truck of the year award. I personly think that these magazines are influenced by the money they get through ads. With regards to the Mazda 3 its a great car, but it only hands sharper because it might not have all the stability control stuff thats on the Rabbit and thus feels sporter. The rabbit would be must safer though in slippery surface. Personly its hard to choose between them one has more quility and class and the other more reliability and less cost.
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Replying to: gti1999 (Jul 28, 2007 10:37 pm) but i have ENVER heard of a gti with a five cylinder. in fact, i wasn't even aware that vw offered a five cylinder in anything up until the recent jetta and rabbit. a vr6? yeah. but a vr5? never heard of it. granted just how everyone says 'german cars are junk' i wouldn't base my opinion of ALL japanese cars soley on your experience. with regards to the 3; the reason it handles bette is because it is more stiffly sprung than the rabbit: they both use a similar set up with regards to suspension, and while they are both fine handling vehicles one leans more towards a sportier ride, while one has a more luxurious comfortable ride. in europe, the ford focus over there uses the same suspension setup as our north american mazda 3; and the golf and it are neck in neck for the title of best hatch. many european car mags/reviewers have commented on the suspension of each respective vehicle and have made a simliar comparison as i have...they both are nimble and feel essentially the same, but one has superior handling and one has a superior ride. |
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The Gti V5 I had was in Kuwait I dont think it was sold in north america. The problem with my Tocoma is a universal problem with all the double cab 4X2, it was a vibration and a knocking noise as you come to a stop. The new 6speed Camry's have a transmission problem. The japaneese dont spend money on researching new technology the spent money on copying it. The nissan marano CVT trans is the technology that Audi came out. If you were to go back to the very beginning of the Lexus you can see the similarity between their cars and Mercedes they even copied the general shape. Where I come from they use to call it the poor mans Mercedes. |
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Replying to: gti1999 (Jul 28, 2007 10:37 pm) The Japanese are not strictly "copy cats", but, they are perfectionists. It is just their culture to be perfect. I do not think the Germans invented VV-T or hybrid technology, did they? Last I knew, the Japanese did. With regards to the Mazda 3 its a great car, but it only hands sharper because it might not have all the stability control stuff thats on the Rabbit and thus feels sportier The Mazda3 does have stability control (Mazda3 s). It handled better because it has a more aggressive suspension set up. Personly its hard to choose between them one has more quility and class and the other more reliability and less cost. The VW has definalty stepped it up, in regards to build quality. The older VW's were not that great.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 30, 2007 11:20 am) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing And Europeans and Americans pioneered hybrid cars, also: http://www.hybridcars.com/history/history-of-hybrid-vehicles.html |
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