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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Recent comparison [seminole_kev] by eldaino
May 30, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: seminole_kev (May 29, 2007 4:37 pm)

thanks for the link to the specs seminole. Aside from cargo space, it is pretty close, and in some cases, actually most of them, the rabbit DOES fare better.
 
Plus, getting the two door only penalizes ease of entry, since the 2 and four door are exactly the same spec wise. (one just has longer doors.)
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Re: Recent comparison [socal2006] by wilkich84
Jun 04, 2007 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: socal2006 (May 29, 2007 4:10 pm)

Been off for awhile. Thanks for the comments. Still not sure where I'm leaning and some of this will depend on my wife's thoughts too.
 
The Rabbit essentially feels like a nicer vehicle. We're doing zip car and, coincidentially, this weekend I had a 3 and a jetta. (I loved driving the 3 but the Jetta felt pretty soft) The consumer reports ratings have not been so much an issue as the stuff friends say about pieces falling off that shouldn't wear.
 
On the interior space issue, they felt the same. One interesting thing is that the darker interior in the 3 proably makes it seem smaller. The cargo area size difference is considerable.
 
All in all, I think we will end up with the 3 based on my great experience with a miata that had no problems at all. However, if I get a screaming deal on the Rabbiut, it may end up in the mix again.
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Re: Recent comparison [wilkich84] by sharpedgeshurt
Jun 08, 2007 (1:03 am)
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Replying to: wilkich84 (Jun 04, 2007 5:39 pm)

I had the pleasure of test driving a 4 door VW Rabbit, and a Mazda 3 hatchback S Touring edition. Automatic transmission on both. As far as interior goes, the Mazda3 seemed to be a little busier than the Rabbit, very dark and more "sporty." The Rabbit's interior was thoughtful, "minimal" compared to the 3, and beige. My uncle went with me and he noted the rear vents for AC and adjustable headrests on the Rabbit that were absent on the Mazda3.
 
The 3 was very responsive on the gas pedal, and the steering was responsive and a little bit stiff compared to the Rabbit. The Rabbit was about equal in responsiveness, and "vroomy" in 1st and 2nd gear. The steering was much smoother compared to the Mazda, which I preferred. I did not get to take the Rabbit on the freeway, so I didn't see how it handled at speeds above about 50 mph.
 
As far as roominess goes, I am a musician and have lots of gigantic equipment that I've got to tote around so I plan on spending a lot of time with my backseats folded forward. I need about 52-56 inches of clearance to fit a keyboard lengthwise in a hard case. With seats folded down the Rabbit seemed a little bit bigger. I did not bring my measuring tape with me so my math could be wrong. I might have “perceived" that the rabbit was a bigger because of its lighter interior color as some of the other posts mentioned. A cool feature of the Rabbit is that its Logo is the handle to open the rear hatch. Very cool, and again subtle.
 
One side note, I broke the center rear view mirror while on my test drive! Or maybe I just snapped it off, I wasn't sure and the salesperson didn't seem to be too worried. I was testing the flap that switches the mirror for when you are in front of high beams and it just rotated the mirror up towards the roof of the car, and when I tried to adjust it I accidentally snapped the thing off!
 
No comments about the stereo system since I test drove both cars with the radio off to listen to the engine noise.
 
The Mazda3 seemed to not have as much rear window visibility and I noticed a slightly larger blind spot in the Mazda3 than in the Rabbit. This is saying a lot considering the second half of my test drive on the Rabbit, the salesperson had the center rear view mirror in his lap.
 
As far as the "fun" factor of the two cars goes, it is really a matter of preference. The Rabbit is more subtle and smooth while still packing some nice power in its 5 cylinder, while the Mazda3 hatchback makes no apologies for its sporty look and feel across the board.
 
I really enjoyed both cars, but at the end of the day am leaning towards the Rabbit. I was really in to the VW GOLF more than a year ago, (long before my legitimate car search began!) and am hopelessly biased towards the new 4 door Rabbit. Just to be sure I plan on postponing making any decision on a new car for a while, and will look in to the flaws in both the Mazda3, the Rabbit, and any other car I plan on looking at before committing.
 
It's too bad the TDI Rabbit isn't available in California, the increased MPG with the diesel engine would make this a much easier decision. Depending on where my car search takes me, I might try to smuggle one in from out of state.
 
One Last Thing:
I also got a chance to poke my head inside the new 2008 Scion XB, but was not able to test drive since they did not have an automatic on the lot, and I can't drive stick. There doesn't seem to be too much info about the 2008 XB online, (at least compared to the Mazda3 and Rabbit) although I haven't been looking too hard. All three models have similar gas mileage, and a sports shifting mode on their automatic models, and very very sharp interiors. So I plan on testing this car out and comparing it to the rabbit as well in this forum.
-Abel
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Re: Recent comparison [eldaino] by socal2006
Jun 08, 2007 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (May 30, 2007 7:43 am)

I realize that the rabbit is not a B class car, and it does compete with other c class cars especially in price. However, the rabbit is significantly smaller overall than other C class cars. I'm not talking about passenger space but about the aforementioned missing trunk. In the past, the Jetta has been called a Golf with a trunk attached. To this day, the Rabbit is essentially a C class car with the trunk area chopped off.
 
This gives VW several advantages as the car can be lighter to be a better handler or about the same weight while having better sound deadening or other luxury... etc. Thus, if one doesn't need the cargo room, the Rabbit can be a very smart choice indeed.
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Re: Recent comparison [socal2006] by shirotori
Jun 08, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: socal2006 (Jun 08, 2007 1:05 pm)

If you are looking at the Rabbit or any other hatchback, you are going to be able to fit a lot more in the car, especially when talking oddly shaped or over sized cargo because you don't have the constraints of a sedan and the back windshield area. Just put one or both of the back seats down and there is a lot of room. Some sedans allow you to put the back seats down, but then you still have the area under the back windshield which complicates things. The cargo area of the Rabbit with all seats in place (seats up for passengers to sit) is 15 cu ft while the Jetta with all seats in place is 16 cu ft. That's not a massive difference. For the Mazda 3 sedan, it has 11.5 cu ft of cargo space with seats in place while the Mazda 3 hatchback has 17.1 cu ft of space with seats in place. IMHO hatchbacks are the way to go because you do have cargo room. I got this info from www.internetautoguide.com
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Re: Recent comparison [shirotori] by bodble2
Jun 08, 2007 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: shirotori (Jun 08, 2007 6:03 pm)

Hatchbacks are definitely more versatile. However, most of the time you can't really load a hatch up to the max because then you won't be able to see out the back!
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Re: Recent comparison [socal2006] by eldaino
Jun 11, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: socal2006 (Jun 08, 2007 1:05 pm)

well, lightness is pretty much out the window, as the rabbit is just as heavy or if not heavier than other c class cars. While it may not have the cargo capacity of the fit or mazda 3, it does have better leg room than the 3 and has nicer materials inside than either.
 
Still a great buy.
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Re: Recent comparison [eldaino] by pianomanum
Jun 25, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 11, 2007 7:04 am)

I just test drove those two cars because I was on the fence. There was no comparison, the Rabbit won hands down. For starters, the VW was MUCH quieter while driving. I felt like I could hear everything on the road in the Mazda, and I had to raise my voice to talk to my wife. The Rabbit also felt much better on the road, including some acceleration superiority over the Mazda. All in all, the only thing I really liked about the Mazda in the end was the price including the options I wanted. I ended up paying just over $20k for the 4-door VW with a sunroof and 17" wheels (among other things), which was below invoice for the car itself.
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Re: Recent comparison [pianomanum] by eldaino
Jun 25, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: pianomanum (Jun 25, 2007 7:14 am)

Awesome! great to have another 'dubber' on board! what kind of 17's did you get? and what color is your bunny?
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Re: Recent comparison [pianomanum] by aviboy97
Jun 26, 2007 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: pianomanum (Jun 25, 2007 7:14 am)

There was no comparison, the Rabbit won hands down. For starters, the VW was MUCH quieter while driving. I felt like I could hear everything on the road in the Mazda, and I had to raise my voice to talk to my wife. The Rabbit also felt much better on the road, including some acceleration superiority over the Mazdajust test drove those two cars because I was on the fence.
 
Thats odd, in a recent test between the two, the Mazda won in every performance catagory, fuel economy, handling, breaking,0-60 and 1/4 mile. You name it, the Rabbit got beat. The only reason the Rabbit won was because of the "Gotta have it" factor. Which is totally subjective.
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/11873/2007-toyota-corolla-le-vs-2006-honda-civic-lx-vs-2007-hyundai-elantra-se-vs-2007-mazda-3s-touring-vs-2007-volkswagen-rabbit-vs-2007-nissan-sentra-20s.html

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