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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Comparison between the 3 and VW [stallionre] by eldaino
Apr 13, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 13, 2007 12:47 pm)

yeah thats true. Its hard to find performance parts for the 3 in general.
 
I had to rule at stick cars like the si(despite being a honda fan) because my wifey no likey. Thats another reason why i liked the gti so much!
 
Man a sport auto? Where did you find that? How much?
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Re: Comparison between the 3 and VW [eldaino] by bodble2
Apr 13, 2007 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 13, 2007 11:56 am)

"...the rabbit's engine is being retuned for 2008: up 20 hp and 7lbs of torque..."
 
Really? Is that confirmed? Same engine, just more power?
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Re: Comparison between the 3 and VW [eldaino] by stallionre
Apr 13, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 13, 2007 1:03 pm)

Sport Auto. No manual. It will made for me in Canada, for about $4K. Not too sure yet about the price.
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Re: Comparison between the 3 and VW [bodble2] by eldaino
Apr 13, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 13, 2007 1:07 pm)

Yep sure is. Its also going to be the base engine for the new jetta sportwagen.
 
I saw a picture of the guages and the 2.5 now redlines at 6300 rpms as oppossed to my 5800. I got a lot of the info off of the vw vortex and from vw's own press releases.
 
Not to bad for a car that starts and 15k.
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And... by eldaino
Apr 13, 2007 (1:53 pm)
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to top it off, its actually an upgrade other rabbit owners can get done (for a price) at the vw dealer itself, since its a reprogramming of the engines ecu and a new intake manifold.
 
although i don't know about getting the gauges re-done, since if any 150 hp rabbit owner woul have gauges that redline at 5800, it will look like you are over revving the engine all the time! I'm sure a website like mtx tuning will stock them tho.
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Re: Perhaps the ratings you're looking for.... [audia8q] by backy
Apr 13, 2007 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Apr 13, 2007 8:51 am)

What it tells me--and this is logical speculation--is that Mazda knows the Mazda3 would not score well on the IIHS side impact test with SABs/SACs. How do I figure that? Because manufacturers run their cars through the same crash tests that the NHTSA and IIHS do, to ensure they will do well on those tests; because the Mazda3's current score on the IIHS side impact test is "Poor", which turns off at least some buyers (including me), so there would be a lot of marketing value for the Mazda3 to be re-tested by the IIHS and receive a higher score; and because manufacturers are free to ask the IIHS to re-test a car with SABs/SACs if they are not standard.
 
So why do you suppose Mazda has not taken advantage of this relatively inexpensive opportunity to improve its showing in the IIHS crash tests, if the car is capable of achieving a higher score?
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- by dudleyr
Apr 13, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Maybe one reason there are not so many go fast parts for the speed3 is it can't handle that much more power in so light a car with fwd.
 
If I recall correctly the engine power is cut in the first gear or two to help traction issues.
 
That is probably true re the side airbags. I know I assumed the 3 would do much better with them - maybe it doesn't.
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Haven't driven the Rabbit or Civic, but owned the Mazda and by 610looper
Apr 13, 2007 (6:43 pm)
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have to say that Mazda needs to work on sound deadening. It's quiet up until 35 or 40, then wind and road noise take over and it's exacerbated highway speeds and on long trips. Also, it doesn't deal with bumps in the road well, too much impact harshness, heard and felt, and the seats are not comfortable for people over 6 feet, and speaking of which the seat doesn't go back on it's track far enough, making for an awkward driving position.
 
That said, it was fun to drive, to zip in & out of traffic with, for making U-turns, plus the price was very reasonable. Oh mine was very reliable, and the dealership service was excellent. I would not buy another one though because I don't need a torture chamber on wheels. I am getting older and my needs in a vehicle have changed, were I in highschool or in my late teens to early twenties, maybe.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by eldaino
Apr 16, 2007 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 13, 2007 5:00 pm)

although i wouldn't call the speed 3 'light', the scarcity of performance parts is pretty sad.
 
I'm sure the aftermarket will take a little bit more to the speed 3, but the fact of the matter is that even thought one would assume that the regular 3 is a great platform to build on, there has not been any real parts since its debut.
 
Maybe having a great chassis and suspension to start with negates the need for tuning?
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Re: Haven't driven the Rabbit or Civic, but owned the Mazda and [610looper] by eldaino
Apr 16, 2007 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: 610looper (Apr 13, 2007 6:43 pm)

understood. While the 3's ride is hardly a torture chamber on wheels to me (i fit that 20 something description ) it is a bit rough riding when compared to other cars in the class.
 
You should look into a civic or rabbit. The fun to drive factor is still there, but its not so pronounced to beat your butt to death!

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