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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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What is this discussion about? Mazda MAZDA3, Volkswagen Rabbit, Car Comparisons, Hatchback


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#188 of 389
OK by pf_flyer HOST
Apr 11, 2007 (7:57 am)
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I think we've run around this semantic circle for long enough.
 
Time to move on. This is a comparison thread about the vehicles, not a place to discuss why someone is or isn't critical about a vehicle.
 
People ARE going to have differing opinions about vehicles. Whether they own them or not is not the subject.
 
If we cannot let this go and move on, we have a problem.
#189 of 389
indeed! by eldaino
Apr 11, 2007 (9:00 am)
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agreed pf_flyer, just make sure the name calling stays outside and that people can at least get their cars straight and not make random, baseless comments!
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Re: indeed! [eldaino] by stallionre
Apr 11, 2007 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 11, 2007 9:00 am)

Tell the car manufacturer this. I know what I had and what car is junk in my opinion. This thread was actually fun to read, but no comment on what was said!!!
#191 of 389
what? by eldaino
Apr 11, 2007 (9:06 am)
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there was PLENTY on what you said; no one deny's that the mkIV had its reliability issues...but this thread is not about the MKIV, its about the MKV, which is known in the us since its debut as the rabbit.
 
And if i recall, you didn't really specify to much about what the problems really were, in fact need i remind you what your first post was?
 
Something along the lines of the rabbit sucking? Without realizing that you had a different generation of golf?
 
If you really wanted to understand problems or issues with your generation golf, you should go to the GOLF forums. (thats why they exist.)
#192 of 389
Enough, let's get this straight by pf_flyer HOST
Apr 11, 2007 (9:16 am)
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People ARE allowed to make errors, and yes, even post comments that you might disagree with. They can even make comments that might turn out to have no basis in fact. This is a message board, not a court of law.
 
What needs to stop NOW is the attitude that anyone here is the arbiter of what can and cannot be posted. If something runs afoul of the Rules of the Road, that's a matter for the hosts. That includes the name calling, personal attacks and the like.
 
Chances are that you are going to see opinions that don't agree with yours. That's fine and is what makes the boards interesting. It's also something that everyone has to live with.
 
What's not fine is questioning the motive or intelligence of the person posting that differing opinion. Or attacking them because they don't like or agree with your vehicle choice.
 
So let's try and get back to the comparison discussion here. Any further posts that want to continue the arguement will be removed. If the discussion continues to return to why people are posting, or commenting on other users, I'm going to assume that this comparison discussion is finished and needs to be retired.
 
Thanks for your cooperation and participation!
#194 of 389
Re: Enough, let's get this straight [pf_flyer] by rorr
Apr 11, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Apr 11, 2007 9:16 am)

"People ARE allowed to make errors, and yes, even post comments that you might disagree with."
 
Well, I've certainly done my share of that....
 
Just for the record, I wouldn't question someone's reluctance to consider a Mazda3 if they'd had multiple problems with a Mazda Protege. I wouldn't question someone's reluctance to consider a Chevy Cobalt if they'd had multiple problems with a Chevy Cavalier.
 
And I won't question someone's reluctance to consider a new Golf/Rabbit if they've had multiple problems with an older Golf/Rabbit.
 
Yes, the new editions may be (probably are) much improved. But there is a range of good choices all through this segment, so why have to deal with nagging worries about the reliability of your NEW car based on poor history with a previous car?
 
In my opinion, it's a growing propensity of consumers to LEAVE a manufacturer after 1 bad experience that is driving the manufacturer's to improve their product. They can't rely (as much) on brand loyalty to keep those owners in house.
#195 of 389
Now that that's settled...LOL by pf_flyer HOST
Apr 11, 2007 (9:38 am)
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As much as the discussion on brand loyalty and how "problems transfer" across models might affect brand loyalty is, that's more of a general discussion that belongs over on the Automotive News & Views Message Board.
 
Let's stick to the specific vehicle comparison here
#196 of 389
Re: what? [eldaino] by stallionre
Apr 11, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 11, 2007 9:06 am)

Basically, the car confused me, changing the model from year to the next, then back again. How can anyone keep up with that? My book says Rabbit, but the paper work said Golf. I did apologize for this confusion and then I stepped out of this forum for that fact and didn't go on and on about the car. I didn't state the problems of the car because I already realized that I might have made an error about the car and you guys jumped down my throat about it, therefore, I stepped out of this forum until the air clears. I hate arguments and how you guys were talking belittling people. We are all adults here, so I like to think that.
 
How can I make this right? I can't believe that all these pages after I left was about my error. Let's move on. Ok I had a bad car and experience with VW simple as that. I still don't like the VW cars. (I hope that this is ok to say, without someone chopping off my head). I am sorry but, I don't like the VW's at all. They have no design or look to them, especially the GTI's I like more of a sporty look to a car, since that is where the models are headed now a days.
 
Like I said before, I am sorry that I made a mistake, but VW line Golf/Rabbit change got me confused. It was three years ago that I had the car. We are all human and can make a mistake.
 
Another thing, sorry that I offended some when I stated my opinion right out. I won't do that agian.
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Re: Enough, let's get this straight [rorr] by bodble2
Apr 11, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 11, 2007 9:30 am)

Well said. Reliability, or concerns thereof, can only be based on past history, which often dictates that it be a previous iteration of the current model.

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