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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 10, 2007 8:20 am) The only place that the current gen rabbit remains the golf is in europe. End of story.
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 10, 2007 8:40 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 10, 2007 8:46 am) The golf has not been called the rabbit since back in the 70's when it first came to our shores! I don't think this is an issue about 'caring'. I'm just stating facts. All your posts have insinuated that the rabbit, in its form now, has always been this way and that a name change was all that occured in 2006. WRONG. The sheetmetal, suspension (torsion ---->independent), engine (2.0 115 hp ----> 2.5 150 hp), interior, chassis, everything, is part of a brand new model. Will a golf always be a golf? Yes but there a differences between the generations! DUH! Isn't the mazda 3 just a successor to the protege with a changed name and revised styling, suspension, drivetrain, interior, suspension etc? Yes, thats why its called a FULL MODEL CHANGE. YOu seemed earlier to not be able to understand this concept. Other examples: yes the new civic is still a civic, but its worlds different than its previous version. Same goes for the mazda 3, the nissan sentra, the vw rabbit, (regardless of name change) and the list goes on and on! Would it make sense to harp on a 1970's rabbit and say that the new one is the same thing? NO! They are worlds apart and ALL vehicle models vary, sometimes VERY drastically from thier previous generation. This conversation is not about the rabbit anymore, its about trying to clarify that if new models of cars don't interest you, then you'd have a tough time dealing with the automotive industry and how it works in general!
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 10, 2007 8:20 am) Now in Germany, the current U.S. market Rabbit was called the Golf last year. I think since 2004?
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 10, 2007 9:00 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 10, 2007 11:22 am) you never said the car hasn't been changed huh? I never argued that because you change a model's name; it makes it a new car. If you change the name of the civic to something else, and everything remains the same, yes its still a civic. With the golf, when it was time for a COMPLETE redesign, they decided to change the name along with it. Why is that hard to understand? If you don't car what they call it, fine. This whole thing started because someone who owned a u.s. spec GOLF (previous gen) stated that the RABBIT (current gen) sucked, when he's never driven it and he admitted to that. EVEN if they NEVER changed the name, his comments would have still been unfair, because he would still have to deal with the fact that this thread is about the current generation (MKV) and he owned a previous one. (MKIV) You seem to think just because it has a new name it has become a completely new model. No I DON'T. But in the case of the rabbit, when they changed the model, they...also...changed...the...NAME! What if they changed the name mid-cycle? That would really throw you for a loop, No it wouldn't, but it certainly has for you!  I've been very plain with my posts, to the point where another poster (avi) has had to tell you that, YES it is a totally different car from the previous generation. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 10, 2007 9:17 am) |
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 10, 2007 12:08 pm) Which part of that did you not understand? Would it help you if I typed more slowly? Changes, upgrades, makeovers, updates from generation to generation do not make it a "new model", you moron. When VW introduced the Phaeton, the Toureg, the Tiguan...those are "new models". Take you for example, next year you could get a new wardrobe, gain/lose 10 lbs, but it would still be the same pompouse obnoxious you. "EVEN if they NEVER changed the name, his comments would have still been unfair, because he would still have to deal with the fact that this thread is about the current generation (MKV) and he owned a previous one. (MKIV)" He was commenting on the reliability of his Golf, and in that respect, it most certainly was fair for him to reference the experience he had with his car. Time will prove him right or wrong, but it is fair for him to so comment.
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This is getting tiresome. 
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Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 10, 2007 3:01 pm)
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