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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Easy [pf_flyer] by eldaino
Apr 06, 2007 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Apr 06, 2007 5:53 am)

just asking why someone is hatin' is legit anymore?
 
Thats about the cars is it not? If i hate something, i state why, i don't just post and wait for someone to call me out on it to explain myself.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by aviboy97
Apr 06, 2007 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 06, 2007 4:56 am)

Yes, the "J" in a VIN means it was assembled in Japan. Usually followed by the first letter of the manufacturer.
 
Example of a Mazda built in Japan would start "JM***"
 
Example of a Honda built in Japan would start "JH***"
 
Really getting into depth, the 10th digit is the year of the vehicle "JM1BK****7*******" That is how the all Mazda3's start.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by bodble2
Apr 07, 2007 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 06, 2007 1:06 pm)

Well, the Golf was rebadged as the Rabbit this year. So, he did essentially have a Rabbit --- just one from the previous generation.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [bodble2] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 07, 2007 11:19 am)

Thank you. My point exactly. Golf, Rabbit, they are one in the same since my was a previous generation. The sticker said Rabbit, but the book said Golf. Go figure. What book ever matches the car exactly??
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [stallionre] by eldaino
Apr 09, 2007 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 09, 2007 7:28 am)

actually, you are both wrong.
 
Just like the jetta, the rabbit was introduced as a brand new model in the middle of 2006.
 
You can find a 2006 'golf', but its a completely different engine, chassis, suspension and interior than the rabbit.
 
So my orginal assumption was right; you never had a rabbit, you had a 4th generation golf. The names are not interchangable, since the rabbit is only the rabbit in the american market; its still the golf in europe.
 
But again you had the 4th generation and they are two completley different cars. Even if you knew nothing about the trim levels or eninges available, your eyes would tell you that they are totally different.
 
because they are 2 different generations, the problems don't neccesarily come hand in hand; your gen 4 golf (mkIV) was known to be problematic. My generation Rabbit, while not totally trouble free as some people have found, is much less so.
 
SO...what i orignally told you about hating on cars without getting the facts straight is true...its kinda like me saying i hate the mazda 3, when i owned a protege, the car that was available right before it. 2 completely different cars; one un-educated comment.
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and one more thing... by eldaino
Apr 09, 2007 (10:20 am)
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What book ever matches the car exactly
 
mine does. and so do many others!
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 09, 2007 10:19 am)

Not really based on the factory mold. Either way I think all VW's are not to my liking and have many problems. They even look old. Their design is boring and the engines make a lot of noise. So I got a problematic one, just that alone, I will never buy one again. You may think that they are different in look, (dont let your eyes deceive you) however all the parts are made of the same material and in the same plant from the same country. Can we say Quality control!!
Maybe your car is awesome and is better than most. If this is the case then I am happy for you. I have my facts straight. I know that the Golf and Rabbit are in the same mold. Maybe you need to do some more research about these cars. Brand new doesn't mean all brand new. Think about that. MARKETING TOOL!!!
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [stallionre] by eldaino
Apr 09, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 09, 2007 10:31 am)

you are not serious right? You do know that there is a complete and total difference between the mkV and mkIV? Just like there is a total difference between the protege and the 3, the 05 and 06 civic and a whole plethora of other cars that are recently re-designed.
 
Despite what you may think, you are misinformed. The name alone didn't change, the ENTIRE car did too. To say its the same parts and from the same factory is a bit off as well, seeing as how the rabbit is completely built in germany, with an engine sourced from mexico and the golf was built totally there.
 
I know the differance between a model refreshing and a complete re-design. You do not. And if you do, everything you have said, says otherwise. Plenty of people on this forum could explain this to you; its a fact that you have to accept wether you like vw's or not; its a brand new car.
 
For example: just because i don't like the NEW nissan sentra doensn't mean its not a full redesign and its just the same car.
You see how this logic doesn't make much sense? That what your posts sounds like.
 
Marketing ploy? Yes to a certain extent and NOT in the way you mean it; yes vw re-named the golf the 'rabbit' for the american market, but they did so when they re-designed the car...the only 'marketing tool' they would not have been able to use if they didn't rename it is all the rabbit innuendos. But thats pretty much it;...but rabbit or golf, the mkV is a differnt car than your mkV golf.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by bodble2
Apr 09, 2007 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 09, 2007 10:19 am)

The current generation Golf/Rabbit first came out as "Golf", then VW simply renamed it "Rabbit". So I stand by my original statement that whether he had a Rabbit or Golf is irrelevant. Now, you could argue that the current generation is so different from the previous one that you can't extrapolate data from one to the other, but that's a different discussion.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [bodble2] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 09, 2007 11:42 am)

No need to argue anything. I was just stating my opinions and what I have read and heard. We are not experts. Just talking back and forth amongst each person to maybe learn something. Can't we all get along and be friends? CARS ARE A PERSONAL STYLE, EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN TASTE, LIKES AND DISLIKES. I AM NO KNOCKING ANYONE HERE. Sorry if I offended some.

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