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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [jmnapp] by savvyboy
Mar 08, 2007 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: jmnapp (Jul 10, 2006 6:24 am)

"German engineering is the way to go...no more Japanese cars for me. They just can't compare to the feel of a German car. "
 
So who is going to be the first to tell this guy that the Mazda 3 is more of a European car (Volvo S40) than it is a Japanese car?
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [savvyboy] by eldaino
Mar 09, 2007 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: savvyboy (Mar 08, 2007 7:02 pm)

well techincally they are both underpinned by ford.
 
I consider it more a japanese though.
 
And he was referring specifically to 'german' cars not all european cars. I'm pretty sure that a renault or fiat feels different than a vw or bimmer.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by aviboy97
Mar 10, 2007 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 09, 2007 10:15 am)

well technically they are both underpinned by ford.
 
Maybe so, but, it's a great platform. It really is only the base to build a vehicle off of. The Mazda3, Volvo S40 and Focus are all totally different vehicles.
 
The Mazda3 has a European drive (great handling, responsive steering, top knotch breaking) and offers Japanese reliability.
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so...i've read these forums for 3 hours.. by ktpkloss
Mar 10, 2007 (4:08 pm)
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and decided i need a new car, Mazda3 or VW... went to a Mazda/VW dealer (how convenient) test drove 4-dr 6A, 2-dr 6A and a GTI VWs plus a 4dr hatchback Mazda3... my subjective opinion? they're both similarily good cars, above the competition in the compact segment...pluses for Mazda: (touring s, no options) alloy wheels, stability control...not much more... Rabbit: heated mirrors, better room (first car ever i didn't have to pull the seat all the way back to drive comfortably + plus it's wider, and that helps a lot) way better default sound system, great visibility, more elegant,refined stylish interior finish... well... and to top it off it's 3k less than Mazda (i wanted hatchback, don't need 4 doors, so 2dr VW will do just fine)
got that rabbit for $16.4k ($300 below MSRP) vs $19.4k that the guy wanted for Mazda3 5-dr hatchback, touring S...
 
no braier, and , lol... i heard a lot about horrible VW dealership experiences, mine was totally awesome actually...i was awaiting that "extended warranty/undercoating/acid rain" crap filled with dread...but...surprise surprise, visit to the "finance office" took all of 3 minutes and ended with an honest handshake. thanks Walker VW/Mazda in Barre, VT ))
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Euro cars [aviboy97] by autonomous
Mar 12, 2007 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 10, 2007 9:56 am)

The Mazda3, Volvo S40 and Focus are all totally different vehicles. The Mazda3 has a European drive (great handling, responsive steering, top knotch breaking) and offers Japanese reliability.
 
Speaking of European, the British weekly, Autocar, rates (using 5 stars) the Ford Focus superior to the Mazda3 and Volvo S40.
- Focus hatch: 4.5 stars, "UK's favourite car returns bigger and better than ever"
- Volvo S40: 3 stars, "strangely less than the sum of its parts"
- Mazda3 hatch: 3 stars, "a good car, but not quite what it should have been"
 
Moral of the story: sometimes you have to leave home to feel appreciated.
 
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Re: Euro cars [autonomous] by aviboy97
Mar 12, 2007 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 12, 2007 2:19 pm)

Moral of the story: sometimes you have to leave home to feel appreciated.
 
If I wen to the UK, I would be driving a far superior Focus then we get here.....I guess I would appreciate that much more then what Ford provides for their own people!
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Re: Euro cars [autonomous] by autonomous
Mar 13, 2007 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 12, 2007 2:19 pm)

- Mazda3 hatch: 3 stars, "a good car, but not quite what it should have been"
 
I checked Autocar again and noticed that the Mazda3 hatchbacks in the UK differ from those being sold in North America. The UK Mazda3 hatch uses a 2.0 L with 148 hp instead of our 2.3 L with 164 hp. Hooray for us!
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Re: Euro cars [autonomous] by ktpkloss
Mar 13, 2007 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 13, 2007 8:29 am)

there's a german comparison of rabbit (golf) mazda 3 and not offered in US Kia Cee'd... you don't have to know german to get a sense of what's going on...btw that Kia is not bad at all! and followig hyunday's example in US, they offer best warranty in europe now.
 
http://www.autozeitung.de/online/render.php?render=47159
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Re: Euro cars [ktpkloss] by autonomous
Mar 13, 2007 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: ktpkloss (Mar 13, 2007 12:20 pm)

The comparison is with the Mazda3 hatchback with a 1.6L engine offering only 105hp (poor cousin to what we have available).
 
p.s. Being a German site, I am not surprised that the VW Rabbit won.
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Re: Euro cars [autonomous] by bodble2
Mar 14, 2007 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 13, 2007 8:29 am)

"...instead of our 2.3 L with 164 hp."
 
I thought it was only 156hp.

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