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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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Car & Driver Comparo by whiteandnerdy
Jan 05, 2007 (6:13 pm)
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Car & Driver Comparo by whiteandnerdy
Jan 05, 2007 (6:16 pm)
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The Mazda3 got beat by the Rabbit in the Car&Driver comparo because the Rabbit scored more in the "fun to drive" and "gotta have it categories," which I think are purely subjective. However, the Mazda3 beat or tied the Rabbit in every objective performance category. I think the Car and Driver guys just had a thing for the Rabbit and fudged their test.
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Re: no [bzie] by aviboy97
Jan 06, 2007 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: bzie (Jan 05, 2007 1:06 pm)

Yes....Same interior, same suspension, same front end, same engine, same platform.
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Top Gear Survey by shirotori
Feb 14, 2007 (7:17 pm)
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I thought this article was interesting, I think it may stir some more discussion.
 
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [mdaffron] by grumpyoldman1
Feb 15, 2007 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: mdaffron (Jul 27, 2006 7:50 am)

Just bought a Rabbit.
Tried the mazda 3 and did like it alot but preferred the rabbit.
And after driving around through the blizzard/ice storm in the northeast this week I love it even more. Great little (heavy/ well balanced) bad weather car.
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Re: Top Gear Survey [shirotori] by nordicone
Feb 19, 2007 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: shirotori (Feb 14, 2007 7:17 pm)

It's good to see a french maker in the top 10. I've always liked the designs of Peugeot and Citroen (though I prefer Peugeot).
 
I would bet that the Passat is responsible for pulling VW down on the list. I have heard horror stories here from friends with previous Gen Jettas and Golfs, far more that I have ever heard in Europe. The EUR Golf and even the Bora have usually been a pretty decent/average cars in terms of reliabilty. The Passat however has always been known for its problems. There's no question that the Mazda3 is a much more reliable car.
 
There have been numerous complaints around EUR that the new car feels less remarkable than the previous one and frankly I agree. The doors don't close with that old VW feel anymore, it feels more like the Japs. It's quite obvious that a lot of cost cutting went on. I haven't driven the US market Rabbit yet, but the Golf--besides it's long list of features, some of which are not even available on the Rabbit here--is not impressive. It's also significantly more expensive. I'd say Mazda has caught on big time and I can't wait to see the next Gen 3.
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Re: Top Gear Survey [nordicone] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: nordicone (Feb 19, 2007 6:54 pm)

My rabbit closes with a very nice thunk!
 
Not impressive? If anyone has anything bad to say about the us spec rabbit, they usually admit that it has a pretty ballin' list of features. I feel bad for the euro golf!
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [jmnapp] by savvyboy
Mar 08, 2007 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: jmnapp (Jul 10, 2006 6:24 am)

"German engineering is the way to go...no more Japanese cars for me. They just can't compare to the feel of a German car. "
 
So who is going to be the first to tell this guy that the Mazda 3 is more of a European car (Volvo S40) than it is a Japanese car?
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [savvyboy] by eldaino
Mar 09, 2007 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: savvyboy (Mar 08, 2007 7:02 pm)

well techincally they are both underpinned by ford.
 
I consider it more a japanese though.
 
And he was referring specifically to 'german' cars not all european cars. I'm pretty sure that a renault or fiat feels different than a vw or bimmer.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [eldaino] by aviboy97
Mar 10, 2007 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 09, 2007 10:15 am)

well technically they are both underpinned by ford.
 
Maybe so, but, it's a great platform. It really is only the base to build a vehicle off of. The Mazda3, Volvo S40 and Focus are all totally different vehicles.
 
The Mazda3 has a European drive (great handling, responsive steering, top knotch breaking) and offers Japanese reliability.

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