Sign In Join 



Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

389 messages,  Last post on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM

You are in the Mazda3 Forum. Your Host is pf_flyer

What is this discussion about? Mazda MAZDA3, Volkswagen Rabbit, Car Comparisons, Hatchback


Messages Page 12 of 39
1
...
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
...
39
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#110 of 389
Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by aviboy97
Nov 18, 2006 (1:56 pm)
Reply

Replying to: moparbad (Nov 18, 2006 10:32 am)

What data have you seen aviboy?
 
I told you, I have seen NO data recommending the Golf/Rabbit. I am going on the history of it's predecessor. I have stated that many times. Because cannot find data on the new to US Rabbit.
 
What is your source for the Rabbit/Golf reliability?
 
What are the differences in expected reliability or differences in past reliability of German VW Golfs and Mazda3?
 
Ok, every respected periodical not only calls the Mazda3 a class leader, but, also has reliability that is at least above average to excellent. The history of the Golf that has been sold here in the U.S. has been repeatedly below average to poor. I have said many times in this thread, that it is too early to say the the VW is poor, however, look at the history of them, and history does not paint a good picture.
 
Both vehicles have been on the market for several years so there is data for both past and current (initial) reliability.
 

 
Where have you seen accurate reliability assessments for the Golf/Rabbit?
 
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to bash the vehicle. I have driven it. It does drive nice, and has good fit and finnish. I just question VW reliability.
#111 of 389
Re: golf reliability [steven39] by moparbad
Nov 19, 2006 (11:13 am)
Reply

Replying to: steven39 (Nov 18, 2006 9:34 am)

JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study Results (data released in 2006 for 2003 model year vehicles)
  
Problems per vehicle
2.43 Mazda
2.99 Volkswagen
2.27 Industry Average problems per vehicle
1.94 Honda
  
The difference is less than 1 problem per vehicle difference between Volkswagen and the industry average.
  
The difference between VW and Mazda is 0.56 problems per vehicle.
   
And this is for 2003 vehicles, it is reasonable to conclude that 2006/2007 vehicles will be more reliable for both manufacturers based on improving initial quality/reliability data.
  
Honda is popularly regarded as a gold standard of reliability and 1.05 problems per vehicle is the reliability advantage compared to VW.
 
Based on data, I have to disagree with your opinion Steven.
#112 of 389
Re: golf reliability [moparbad] by erniea1
Nov 19, 2006 (11:44 am)
Reply

Replying to: moparbad (Nov 19, 2006 11:13 am)

The Mazda3 was not alive in 2003. Production started in 2004.
#113 of 389
Re: golf reliability [erniea1] by moparbad
Nov 19, 2006 (12:29 pm)
Reply

Replying to: erniea1 (Nov 19, 2006 11:44 am)

The Mazda3 was not alive in 2003. Production started in 2004.
 
The purpose of my data is to provide data of manufacturer long term reliability. This must be done by reviewing past performance from the manufacturers.
The results are relevant to the current 2006/2007 Mazda3 and VW Rabbit, though it will be another 3 years before we can look back at actual results from the current vehicles being sold.
 
No where in my post did I state that Mazda3 production started in 2003, although the first car rolled off the assembly line on 8 December 2003.
#114 of 389
Re: golf reliability [moparbad] by d_hyper
Nov 19, 2006 (3:04 pm)
Reply

Replying to: moparbad (Nov 19, 2006 12:29 pm)

Unfortunately for Mazda, this statistics includes B-series pickup (Ford). Although the brand should look for consistent quality across the range, it is not the case w/Mazda. Made in Japan Mazdas vehicles are significantly better than the rest. The appropriate comparison should be between models not brands.
#115 of 389
reliability by steven39
Nov 19, 2006 (3:33 pm)
Reply
i don't think it's probably fair to bash vw reliability.yes vw's track record in the past is not very favorable as far as reliability is concerned.however,toyota is haveing major problems with the 07 toyota camry
a supposidly rock solid dependable car.they are haveing tranny problems and engine problems.an obvious flawed design with the engine and tranny.
#116 of 389
Re: reliability [steven39] by erniea1
Nov 19, 2006 (6:32 pm)
Reply

Replying to: steven39 (Nov 19, 2006 3:33 pm)

"toyota is having major problems with the 07 toyota camry"
 
Can you elaborate on this? I just purchased a 07 Camry Hybrid. Thanks!
#117 of 389
Re: reliability [erniea1] by d_hyper
Nov 19, 2006 (7:41 pm)
Reply

Replying to: erniea1 (Nov 19, 2006 6:32 pm)

'07 Camry woes http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f0c6927/0
Good luck with your purchase!
#118 of 389
Re: reliability [d_hyper] by sssfegy
Nov 20, 2006 (5:36 pm)
Reply

Replying to: d_hyper (Nov 19, 2006 7:41 pm)

The new Rabit is based on the 2005.5 Jetta so look at the records for the New Jetta. How about Car&Drievrs comparison? That's a very weird one again, Mazda beat all the cars,in all categories they tested, but took number2?! What a world! Consumer reports picked the 3Hatch over the A3? But the sedan 2.3 won't beat the unrefined 5 cylinder(sounds like a direct injection turbo with no turbo!)? It sucks to be a Mazda product engineer!
#119 of 389
no by bzie
Jan 05, 2007 (1:06 pm)
Reply
the new rabbit is not based on the jetta the rabbit is the new golf it has replace it i work for vw and the rabbit is a great car so fudge the review and that crap

Messages Page 12 of 39
1
...
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
...
39
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement