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#952 of 1005 a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| by elias

Aug 09, 2012 (5:14 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Aug 07, 2012 10:43 am)
yeah, it's annoying but also funny when the LLCs speed up when you try to smoothly/safely pass on the right.
 
however in USA anyone is probably ill-advised to go faster than a true 99mph while passing. 100 mph is technically a criminal/reckless in every USA state, as far as I know.
  
Also consider that your speedo reads *at least* 3% fast, so when it reads 100 your true speed is probably no more than 95.
 
one of my cars has a dashboard/diagnostic mode where it will show the real speed in a tiny font on LCD screen, while the speedo-needle reads way faster.
this is how most modern car speedos are designed, as far as i understand.
 
see you in the right lane, everyone!

#953 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [elias] by fintail

Aug 09, 2012 (6:48 pm)

Replying to: elias (Aug 09, 2012 5:14 pm)
Don't forget, it's only illegal if you get caught
 
My fintail has a laughably optimistic speedometer, always 10-15% fast...E55 is very accurate though, as it has a needle, digital readout, and GPS which I assume can measure it too.

#954 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [elias] by andres3

Aug 10, 2012 (9:46 pm)

Replying to: elias (Aug 09, 2012 5:14 pm)
100 mph is technically a criminal/reckless in every USA state, as far as I know.
 
In CA that might mean having a real honest trial with a jury present, and an appointed defendent attorney. I seriously doubt "revenue" enforcers want to make a criminal case out of "speeding."
 
They just want your money.

#955 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [andres3] by hammerhead

Aug 10, 2012 (10:19 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Aug 10, 2012 9:46 pm)
100 mph, depending on the speed limit at the time, could easily be reckless drivving (still a misdemeanor) or reckless endangerment (in some places a felony). It IS a criminal case, sometimes, as it should be.

#956 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [hammerhead] by andres3

Aug 12, 2012 (8:35 pm)

Replying to: hammerhead (Aug 10, 2012 10:19 pm)
What I'm saying is the cop is likely to write you up for 99 MPH instead of 100 if you were going 10 or less over 100.
 
Officers also often will do you the supposed "favor" of writing a ticket for 15 over if you were 16-25 over because it'll be cheaper as a fine in CA if you aren't going more than 15 over the speed limit (another good reason all speed limits should be set to the 85th percentile since it is used as a basis of legal liability at times). They love to act like they are cutting you a break by writing you a ticket for less fine money by cutting a break of a couple MPH on the speed.
 
In reality, all they are doing is messing you up by raising your insurance premiums, making you waste your time to fight a ticket (or money to pay it), and just trying to butter you up into accepting the ticket without a fight.
 
You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
 
A real criminal case or Felony offers the Defendant an opportunity to exercise his rights, and get a fair trial. Sure it raises the stakes, but I'd rather be found not guilty of murder than guilty of speeding even 5 MPH over, for example. By raising the stakes, at least you get a fair and just trial most likely (by having a lawyer appointed to you, and also by having a jury decide your fate rather than a sole disgruntled judge corrupted by the Police that write the tickets in the first place.

#957 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [andres3] by hammerhead

Aug 13, 2012 (8:28 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Aug 12, 2012 8:35 pm)
And a misdemeanor may (and I'm pretty sure a felony would demand) get you cuffed & stuffed for a ride to the local municipal motor inn for a photography session and perhaps even a (ahem) physical exam. Meanwhile, your car gets impounded. Vehicles used in the commission of a felony are often seized. Kiss your ride good bye.
 
Is it really worth risking going through all that just to try to prove that you think you're smarter than the system, and to score points in your apparent grudge match with LEOs?
 
Go ahead with that. The rest of us will be enjoying the drive without you.

#958 of 1005 Re: a good maximum passing speed is 99 mph :| [hammerhead] by fintail

Aug 13, 2012 (10:32 am)

Replying to: hammerhead (Aug 13, 2012 8:28 am)
All he needs is a FOP sticker or enough income, and he's home free. That's how the LEO community rolls. Funny how in my town I know where there is always a downhill speed trap, but I see Ferraris and Porsches speeding up my street at twice-thrice the limit every few days, and never see a parked cop.
 
Funny line from a motorcycling theory book I recently read:
 
"we need to remember that most of the traffic laws on the books were created well before Hitler commissioned the Volkswagen and are equally outdated"

#959 of 1005 calling perry mason by elias

Aug 14, 2012 (3:44 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Aug 12, 2012 8:35 pm)
absolutely good/correct points, A3, 100% .
 
Too bad for motorists that the traffic clerks/courts aren't open weekends, else more people would fight their tickets. That's often a factor that prevents me from fighting the tix like you.
   
More power to you & Perry Mason, again again again again again .

#960 of 1005 Re: calling perry mason [elias] by steve_ HOST

Aug 14, 2012 (6:11 am)

Replying to: elias (Aug 14, 2012 3:44 am)
Night courts aren't uncommon - seems like there was even a TV show about one.
 
Even better, just do it by video from your house. Photo radar, video trial.

#961 of 1005 Re: calling perry mason [steve_] by fintail

Aug 14, 2012 (6:38 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Aug 14, 2012 6:11 am)
A TV show nearly 30 years ago...have never known of a night court in person.
 
Luckily we haven't devolved to the limey Orwellian surveillance grid, and crony capitalist traffic cameras still aren't common here.

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