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GPS to be put to the test by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2007 (2:50 pm)
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"Apparently some GPS units have the capability—in the hands of a savvy user—of possibly proving that radar can be faulty."
 
GPS a new tool to fight speeding tickets? (Straightline)
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Here's one to make your day. by imidazol97
Dec 01, 2007 (5:09 am)
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Utah speeder tasered
 
Maybe someone from Utah can explain this to us.
 
My comments are the officer should have brought the driver back to his car at the first sign of obstinance.
The officer did not tell him that ,apparently, in Utah if you refuse to sign the ticket you will be arrested to be sure they get their money for that dangerous crime.
 
Whether there are was earlier 40 mph sign on the road before the one on the video would determine if the man was speeding. With all the workers and equipment along the road where the arrest occured, I'm surprised they don't have the speed limit at 25; they could make a lot more arrests that way. BTW I see no sign of work occurring and people are speeding by above 40 during the arrest.
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Re: Here's one to make your day. [imidazol97] by oldfarmer50
Dec 01, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 01, 2007 5:09 am)

In the paper this morning they say that the officer in question was found to have acted properly but that he was taken off duty because of thousands of e-mail complaints and death treats.
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Re: Here's one to make your day. [oldfarmer50] by imidazol97
Dec 01, 2007 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 01, 2007 7:19 am)

The posts on the youtube site for the movie tend to be polarized. But my opinion is that the officer didn't have an authoritation approach and the didn't control the situation. He was buddy buddy at first. I suspect a ticket wasn't really deserved. I don't see workers in the immediate area. Forty miles per hour on a 4 lane highway seems really slow....
 
The office seems to have measured his speed as he came up from behind? Was he using radar? Then the officer pulled over in front of the 40 mph sign, probably blocking its view from the driver.
 
In this area when workers aren't present the speed limit doesn't apply (signs say "When workers present."
 
Having been on several juries, having lawyers as friends, and a few police officers as friends, I'm well aware that some officers are such because they want to have power over people. They have a need to dominate someone.
 
Officers usually don't follow speed limits and all the driving rules themselves. In this area they have FOP tags for their plates. Their family gets "Get out of jail cards" that they show with their license. Our friend has used hers 5 times in the last two years. One small township police officer wasn't real happy with the idea. It is the same township where the officer leaves his bright beams on and if oncoming traffic flashes their brights at him, he cites them for using their bright lights. They did that to a teenager from our school driving to a work location for a school group where they operate a Halloween scare tour.
 
The other thing I've learned is that most judges are well aware that officers "stretch the truth" and omit details to make their case. I've been on juries and heard that from attorney friends through the decades. I got out of a nasty jury trial because I had a bad cold last December and it would have required believing officers 100%--it was a case that had been in the news for weeks when it occurred.
 
I hope the officer's supervisors give him some training.
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Another useful light... by ny540i6
Dec 27, 2007 (3:43 pm)
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.... or, how to spend taxpayers' money....
 
Picture this: "Y" junction, governed by stop signs on the two feeder roads, both of which can be somewhat busy. Road "A" has a traffic light about two blocks back from the junction.
 
For several years this has worked, with the rare incident of "who was here first" at the intersection, however no real mayhem, since all traffic was flowing into the same direction, sightlines were good etc... so, of course, the city "fixed" it.
 
Traffic lights were added to both feeders right before the "Y". The result? Timing so screwed up that traffic was backing up on both sides. The solution? Add human beings - traffic folks to direct people to ignore the lights when it got too congested. You say... remove the lights? Well no, since that would mean admitting that it was a mistake to place them there.
 
The latest idiocy? Paving some of the grassy delta in the middle of the "Y" so the traffic agents have a place to park their car.
 
And by the way, most of the time, most of the agents simply look up at the light for guidance before telling traffic to do anything.
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SC Troopers by izaclown1
Dec 27, 2007 (6:01 pm)
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I have noticed more troopers standing on overpasses with speed detecting devices and several (as many as 6) chasers parked on the other side of the on-ramps running down violators over the holidays. There are several overpasses that have road signs attached to them and they stand right behind the sign. They must be using VASCAR instead of radar or laser, my detector does not go off in these areas.
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The money machine by oldfarmer50
Dec 28, 2007 (6:04 am)
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Sometime ago when they raise the speed limits on the interstates to 65 from the old 55 individual states were allowed to have sections where the limit stayed at 55. This was to be where the interstates traveled through urban areas and thus had heavy traffic loads.
 
Near where I live a section of I-87 suddenly drops from 65 to 55. Many drivers (particularly non-locals) don't notice the change and drive right into the waiting speed traps.
 
The funny thing is, a few miles later, as you actually get closer to an "urban" area the speed limit goes back up to 65.
 
Now I may just be paranoid but it seems that they are using the law as a way of getting into our pockets.
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speed detecting devices by steve_ HOST
Dec 28, 2007 (7:22 am)
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There's been a great thread over the last few days in the Radar/Lidar detectors discussion starting at post 1133. Very comprehensive.
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in other news by steve_ HOST
Dec 28, 2007 (4:14 pm)
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My mom went to one of her docs a couple of weeks ago down in Chattanooga. Yesterday she got a photo radar ticket for going 47 in a 35 mph zone. She said she was just trying to keep up with traffic and that people were passing her.
 
Mom's 86.
 
She really enjoyed her years living a bit east of the Bay Area so maybe we can relocate her to Pasadena. Instead of a Super Stock Dodge she has a 1990 Mazda Protege - guess old Mazdas can still zoom zoom too.
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Re: in other news [steve_] by euphonium
Dec 28, 2007 (9:27 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 28, 2007 4:14 pm)

I know of an elderly gentleman about her age who would like to meet her. He would even buy her a new car because she can drive.

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