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Re: Street racers lose their cars [steve_] by imidazol97
Jun 29, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 28, 2007 7:50 pm)

I think having stolen parts that don't match the original equipment might be a problem for the city/state to sell the car.
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Re: Street racers lose their cars [imidazol97] by steve_ HOST
Jun 29, 2007 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 29, 2007 8:34 am)

If something of mine is stolen, I'd like to get it back - not have it crushed. But a lot of that stuff probably winds up in an evidence locker for years and you'd probably never see it again anyway.
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Re: Street racers lose their cars [steve_] by andres3
Jun 29, 2007 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 29, 2007 9:03 am)

I'm sure a good lawyer could "recover" evidence that you own and have full rights to.
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Re: Street racers lose their cars [andres3] by izaclown1
Jun 29, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 29, 2007 7:40 am)

"You make another law that says if anyone is caught "gifting" a confiscated vehicle back to the original owner, they will get the death penalty?
  
Or life in prison if that's too harsh for you.
  
That would solve the friend buying it for you back problem."
 
Sound good to me...
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I know that some here will be shocked... by kdhspyder
Jun 29, 2007 (1:48 pm)
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...especially if you happen to be a Virgina resident ( thank God I only work there ).
 
15 mph over or miss a signal - lose your house
 
OK that's an exageration...but maybe it's not
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Re: I know that some here will be shocked... [kdhspyder] by pat HOST
Jun 29, 2007 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 29, 2007 1:48 pm)

Well, at the very real risk of sounding like Pollyanna or something I have to say that if you don't go outside the lines, you don't have to pay any of that. Not sure why some are so upset (and they are, it's not just you, I live here and see it)... people want to be able to violate the law with only a nominal penalty if you get caught?
 
I don't really understand why it only applies to citizens of the commonwealth, though. That seems very odd.
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Re: I know that some here will be shocked... [pat] by kdhspyder
Jun 29, 2007 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Jun 29, 2007 2:04 pm)

Yes that is unusual. I'm also shocked about the 'residual' liability one might have to the state of up to 11 years $1050 per. Wow!! That could be as much as $15000 for a more serious offense.
 
Are most people that you meet aware of the new law, Pat? Almost no one at our store was and it's a key part of our jobs, being on the roads all the time.
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Re: I know that some here will be shocked... [kdhspyder] by pat HOST
Jun 30, 2007 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 29, 2007 7:17 pm)

No, they are not aware of it. I'm not sure how this happened with no one noticing and that's probably contributing to people being upset about it. I wasn't aware of it until a week or so ago and I'm pretty up to date on what's happening in the world, or so I thought. This one has definitely been kept under the radar. So to speak.
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Re: I know that some here will be shocked... [kdhspyder] by oldfarmer50
Jun 30, 2007 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 29, 2007 1:48 pm)

Maybe the sheriff from the first story had to steal money to pay the fines in the second story.
 
Here in NY we have something similar, although not quite so outrageous. It has nothing to do with driver safety and everything to do with government getting it's hand in your pocket. The cowards we elect to represent us don't have the gonads to raise taxes so they slap "fees" and "safety assessments" on groups who have no political clout.
 
In NY you can get a $50 fine, a $100 surcharge and a $125 safety assessment all on the same ticket. Of course what would you expect from a state that taxes uninsured medical patients an extra 5% of the bill to pay for illegal's medical care.
 
I sorry to rant but this amounts to nothing less than war on the working poor of this country. For the rich these fees mean nothing, for the middle class they are a royal pain, but for some poor slob working for $9 an hour these fines could result in loss of license when he can't pay and the loss of his job when he can't get to work.
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Outside the Commonwealth by fezo
Jun 30, 2007 (11:54 am)
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There's excellent reason it doesn't not apply to those outside of Virginia. It would not take long for states to start imposing "zero tolerance" for Virginia plates in their states as a retaliatory response.
 
What an insane law. I have no problem with some teeth in enforcement but up to a year in jail for 70 in a 55? I don't think so.
 
What a coincidence that the legislator that slipped this into an unrelated bill just happens to be a partner in a law firm that specializes in getting people out of this sort of thing. Cleverly includes a thing that prohibits judges from reducing sentences so more folks will decide it is better to pay this clown's firm to represent them rather than risk losing in court.
 
"'The purpose of the civil remedial fees imposed in this section is to generate revenue,' the new law states. (Virginia Code 46.2-206.1)"
 
No kidding!
 
If you look at the various elements a simple speeding ticket can run you over $6,000!
 
Takes Virginia right off of my list of states I'll spend my money in.

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