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Re: seat belt law [kirstie_h] by 210delray
May 03, 2007 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 03, 2007 10:34 am)

I wouldn't sweat it. More than half of the states now have such laws (VA, where I live, isn't one of them). They've been proven to increase belt usage, so I think they're a plus. This is important because those who refuse to wear belts are generally the highest-risk drivers. I'm not aware of any complaints regarding "profiling" because of these "primary" seat belt laws.
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Cops and laws by imidazol97
May 03, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Now the cops wouldn't say they couldn't see a seatbelt just for an excuse to stop someone, would they? grin.
 
Local note about cops:
 
Award-winning cop gets DUI
 
I looked for a link to a news story about a bar patron with many DUIs ran over a woman in the parking lot and then backed over her a couple of times.
Good samaritan
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Re: seat belt law [210delray] by kirstie_h HOST
May 04, 2007 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (May 03, 2007 12:10 pm)

Don't get me wrong - I am in general a huge supporter of law enforcement personnel. It's a darn hard job that I wouldn't do, and they take a lot of flack for just trying to help people.
 
The problem around here is the practice that can be called no less than predatory. My city proper (St. Louis) has been rated as #1 in crime, yet there is an absolute glut of traffic enforcement where no danger exists. More revenue is apparently needed to hire more crime-focused policemen, and there's not really another revenue source apart from traffic tickets.
 
That's where I have my own little slice of paranoia pizza
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Re: seat belt law [kirstie_h] by imidazol97
May 04, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 04, 2007 9:59 am)

Have they tried putting up speed/redlight cameras as a money maker? That's what Dayton City and Toledo have done. That way they don't have to sit and watch for redlight runners and speeders. The money just pours in (well a small portion at least that the camera company doesn't get).
 
Of course the drivers and crime goes on just as they were, but the city gets more money.
 
Maybe the camera companies could invent cameras that catch drug dealers (I can see them weekly on my way in and out of Dayton), or cars with no insurance, or drivers with no license, or illegals, or politicians who don't do anything other than pander to their data base and bait others to help them do so.
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Re: seat belt law [kirstie_h] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 03, 2007 9:20 am)

I'm not sure what the law is here in OR - as to whether or not you can be pulled over strictly for not wearing your seatbelt - but I still think it's kind of silly.
 
The seatbelt law is a good one, but I will have to admit that I don't IMMEDIATELY put it on when I get into the car. Usually it's as I am pulling out and or all ready on the road. It's a bad habit I know, but at least I wear the seat belt and I never get more than 50 yards from my starting point before getting it on.
 
I guess you could add that to the list of things that cause distractions since I am not "focused" on driving but on getting my seat belt. Usually this happens while changing CD's and dialing the phone and checking my map so I know where I need to go and rolling down the window so there's a breeze while trying to drink from my water bottle..... .... Hey, I still have a knee to drive with right??
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [punkr77] by redmaxx
May 24, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: punkr77 (Apr 13, 2007 7:12 am)

My best traffic ticket story is from my high school days. One of the officers had a Camero with darkly tinted windows. He would pull up next to kids in town for spring break at stoplights and rev the engine. Thinking he wanted to drag race, they would tear off. He'd let them win, flip on his dash mounted light, and pull them over.
  
Their reward for winning the race: a slew of tickets (speeding, reckless driving, etc).
  
When I was a truck driver, I got a ticket in Atlanta. I was coming from the local terminal and there was a road block/checkpoint under the overpass before you get on the freeway. I figured there must be an accident/detour so I took off my seatbelt and rolled down the window so I could lean out and talk to the officer when I got up to him. Instead of telling me there was an accident, he told me it was a seatbelt checkpoint and to pull over.

 
I wonder about these tactics. It would be illegal for a regular driver to race another regular driver. Both would get tickets. But doesn't the police officer have to "race" the regular driver? Why isn't this reckless driving on the part of the officer?
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [redmaxx] by m6vx
May 25, 2007 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: redmaxx (May 24, 2007 12:37 pm)

I wonder about these tactics. It would be illegal for a regular driver to race another regular driver. Both would get tickets. But doesn't the police officer have to "race" the regular driver? Why isn't this reckless driving on the part of the officer?
 
My guess is the cop just reved the engine to hook'em, and took off normally from the light, while his victim 'raced' by himself.
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [m6vx] by imidazol97
May 25, 2007 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: m6vx (May 25, 2007 5:21 am)

Sounds like less than proper tactic; more like entrapment. Somewhat like the police using computer chats pretending to be young people and then when older adults show up having made dates with these adults, they are charged with attempting to have contact with young people, who never existed. Obviously that's wrong, but the entrapment techniques are reprehensible.
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [imidazol97] by steve_ HOST
May 25, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 25, 2007 5:25 am)

You can't be entrapped if you aren't willing. Don't race at the lights and let 'em rev all they want. Or report them for a noise violation.

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