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540 messages, Last post on Sep 21, 2009 at 12:22 PM
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On my trips between chicago and the suburbs I try my best to cruise at 75mph if the conditions are right. 75% of the time I'd say im the fastest driver on the highway, but oddly enough ive never recieved a ticket. I usually travel non-peak hours/night time. Technically the speed limit is 55mph but that is awfully slow given that cars could safely travel at 80+mph on these expressways/tollways. One time i have seen a tollway tropper set a rolling barrier of 65mph. So cars crowded up behind him since obviously no one will pass a LEO. I'm fortunate my situation is very lax since this allows me to communte in a quick and timely manner without having to worry about silly LEO's trying to extract money out of me just because im traveling safely at a higher speed. |
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Here in Missouri, we've had a seat belt law for quite a few years, with the stipulation that one cannot be pulled over for that violation alone, but may be cited if pulled over for another violation. Yesterday, that condition was revoked and now drivers may be pulled over based on that alleged violation. I'm kinda peeved about this, as I think it simply invites abuse - for example, police may hang around near bars and pull people over for a seatbelt violation even if the driver shows no signs of intoxication. Even if the driver is wearing a seatbelt, the officer can easily claim it was very dark and it appeared that the driver was unbelted. Once the driver is pulled over, they may be asked to do sobriety tests, or have the vehicle searched, etc. I only use DUI testing (absent any suspicion apart from that the driver had been in a bar) because it's the first example that came to mind... NOT because I have any sympathy AT ALL for driving under the influence. I'm simply saying this new regulation, IMO, opens the door for previously unwarranted "investigations." Other opinions? (not the host here)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 03, 2007 9:20 am) -Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (May 03, 2007 10:05 am) It's not like speeding, failure to stop, making a U-turn... those are all violations that an officer can verify BEFORE making the traffic stop, whereas seatbelt wearing? C'mon. In some cases it's easy, but you can't tell me that there's a whole lot of accuracy in spotting that violation at 10pm on a rainy night in relatively fast-moving traffic. The pull-over would be based on, "well gee, it sure didn't LOOK like you were wearing your seat belt."
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 03, 2007 10:34 am)
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Now the cops wouldn't say they couldn't see a seatbelt just for an excuse to stop someone, would they? grin. Local note about cops: Award-winning cop gets DUI I looked for a link to a news story about a bar patron with many DUIs ran over a woman in the parking lot and then backed over her a couple of times. Good samaritan |
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Replying to: 210delray (May 03, 2007 12:10 pm) The problem around here is the practice that can be called no less than predatory. My city proper (St. Louis) has been rated as #1 in crime, yet there is an absolute glut of traffic enforcement where no danger exists. More revenue is apparently needed to hire more crime-focused policemen, and there's not really another revenue source apart from traffic tickets. That's where I have my own little slice of paranoia pizza 
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 04, 2007 9:59 am) Of course the drivers and crime goes on just as they were, but the city gets more money. Maybe the camera companies could invent cameras that catch drug dealers (I can see them weekly on my way in and out of Dayton), or cars with no insurance, or drivers with no license, or illegals, or politicians who don't do anything other than pander to their data base and bait others to help them do so. |
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