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Re: If You Want to Play..... [davv62] by paisan
Apr 07, 2007 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: davv62 (Apr 07, 2007 5:24 am)

Daw62, my last mover was also in a small town at night on a regular road, 47 in a 35 or something like that upstate NY in a cold rain pulling my race car trailer on the way to Watkins Glen!
 
-mike
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [paisan] by davv62
Apr 07, 2007 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 7:50 am)

Hey Mike,
 
Getting nailed pulling a trailer is quite a feat, man...
 
I went to court for my last ticket, and it was pretty entertaining actually. I was almost sorry that they took my case so quickly, since I missed out on listening to a few more of the stories.
 
I was out pretty quickly, and only got my wallet lightened by $35, so I'd say I did pretty well....
 
How often do you get busted in general? I actually have very long stretches between tickets, though I once got two tickets within 10 minutes....now that was fun...
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Hypocritical Cops.... by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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I saw something the other day that aggravated me...
 
Our church parking lot has an entrance that is somewhat odd to get in and out of. To get to it you have to go through a small commercial plot before you enter the parking lot. And to exit you have to go up and around out of the way from the way you came in because where you came in at is a right turn only. This particular right turn only is new because of a new Wal-mart being built across the street.
 
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On top of that, the road just past the parking lot entrance is closed completely because of the Walmart construction and the re-locating of the roadway. As you can see from my rough drawing you can enter just fine, but to get out, you "must" go North, then west, and the finally south to get back to the highway, whereas before you could just exit, make a left and go to the highway. I understand the reasoning behind the right turn only as when the Wal-mart opens the traffic is expected to be heavy and being so close to the highway, left turns should be minimized.
 
But right now traffic is nil becasue Walmart isn't open and the road is basically closed. Limited to the bank traffic and church traffic. Also light traffic for the road that runs north behind the church. But right now the city seems to be low on funds as they have stationed an officer at the corner of the highway and the bank to catch anyone making a left turn from the right turn only. It is marked and there is a concrete "barrier", but it is still possible with out much effort to still make a left turn. I know why it's there, but at this point in time, there is no need as there is no traffic and no real need to waste time going up and around and out of the way. So a lot of people (including myself sometimes) ignore the right turn only and make a left turn.
 
A few people have been pulled over (this being 9 PM at night when traffic is virtually nil anyway) and ticketed. The officer knows when there will be people at the church and waits for them to leave and make that illegal turn. I would like to suppose that he is trying to teach people that this is not allowed and that when the Wal-mart opens, it can be really dangerous to make that kind of a left turn. But is there really any point to ticketing people at 9 PM at night on a road that has no traffic because is basically closed?
 
Then to top it all off, one night he was sitting there ready to pull people over, but this time he wasn't at the corner, but almost to the parking lot so you would have to pass him on your way to the exit. I was just getting ready to leave and I watched him pull out and leave. And did he make the right turn to go up and around?? NO! He went straight and made the "illegal" left turn like everyone else he had pulled over for doing so! That is what aggrevated me. Okay fine. If you feel you need to fill you city's coffers by pulling people over for commiting a harmless "crime" and teach someone a "lesson" so be it. I don't have a problem going up and around. It takes all of about 30 extra seconds and when the Walmart opens, I'll have to do so anyway because of traffic. But if you are going to do that, at least have the decency to do the same your self....
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Re: Hypocritical Cops.... [thebigal] by imidazol97
Apr 09, 2007 (2:48 am)
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Replying to: the_big_al (Jun 27, 2008 3:16 pm)

Churchgoers should follow the laws of the land.
 
The complaint about the officer's making the left turn should be directed to the city council in public with as many people who witnessed the left turn present and having signed a statement as possible to have. Officers often don't do as they say for everyone else to do; laws don't apply to them since they're special. Happens all the time and sometimes makes the news.
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [davv62] by thenebean
Apr 09, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: davv62 (Apr 06, 2007 4:02 am)

yup - i've noticed it too! you see one cop, plan on seeing many more! its like the have state traffic enforcing days, and other days the highways are empty. crazy if you ask me!
 
the merritt is a nightmare IMO. old highway with narrow roads, no shoulders, and people fly through there at speeds that are probably not too safe. i usually drive between 10-15, maybe 20 over the speed limit. on rare occasions will i get up any higher than that. i've slowed down a bit since my college days! the merritt is a pretty scenic road i think, just not too safe for today's speeders - especially when its crowded!
 
-thene
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Re: Hypocritical Cops.... [thebigal] by redmaxx
Apr 11, 2007 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: the_big_al (Jun 27, 2008 3:16 pm)

It sounds like all of that is on private property. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think cops have the right to ticket on private property. In AZ at least, they don't. Here the law is written such that all traffic laws apply to public "highways" (i.e. any public road). If the road is private, there are no traffic laws.
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Rollercoaster Road by railroadjames
Apr 12, 2007 (8:09 pm)
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Out here in Valpo, Indiana we have a fun road that is a rarity. If you do 45-50 you get a most enjoyable "float on air" ride. Unfortunitly, too many extremists push the envelope and now the local police have dropped the limit to 30 and it's very easy to get a ticket (my son just recently). There have been several accidents on this section over the yrs. and I suppose the new sub-division had something to do with the lower limit. Still, it's always tempting to do the 50 for the fun of it.
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [thenebean] by davv62
Apr 13, 2007 (2:24 am)
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Replying to: thenebean (Apr 09, 2007 8:32 am)

I try to keep it to 75-80 on the Merritt, sometimes slower, depending on the stretch of road. It's a curvy, hilly road, and you can't always see around the next curve, or over the crest of the next hill.
 
A couple of times, I've caught myself unintentionally going 90 or so on the Merritt, but I always slow down when I realize how fast I'm going.
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Re: If You Want to Play..... [davv62] by punkr77
Apr 13, 2007 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: davv62 (Apr 13, 2007 2:24 am)

My best traffic ticket story is from my high school days. One of the officers had a Camero with darkly tinted windows. He would pull up next to kids in town for spring break at stoplights and rev the engine. Thinking he wanted to drag race, they would tear off. He'd let them win, flip on his dash mounted light, and pull them over.
 
Their reward for winning the race: a slew of tickets (speeding, reckless driving, etc).
 
When I was a truck driver, I got a ticket in Atlanta. I was coming from the local terminal and there was a road block/checkpoint under the overpass before you get on the freeway. I figured there must be an accident/detour so I took off my seatbelt and rolled down the window so I could lean out and talk to the officer when I got up to him. Instead of telling me there was an accident, he told me it was a seatbelt checkpoint and to pull over.
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Sometimes Ya Just Get Lucky! by railroadjames
Apr 13, 2007 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: punkr77 (Apr 13, 2007 7:12 am)

I use to be a locomotive engineer on the "J" in N.W. Indiana and yrs ago while working on the "extra-board" I was called out (in emergency) due to an accident at the railroad. I hopped on my Kawasaki and rushed the 16 miles to work at 115mph and suddenly spyed a squadcar. I pulled over b/4 he even got the flashing lts on and I hurried license out of my wallet and my "engineer's license" too. I told him about my emergency and (to my surprise) he let me go with a warning. I hopped back on the bike and got about 8 miles down the road doing 115mph again and, wouldn't you know it, another cop. Well, it worked once and it did again. Sure was surprised that I could be that lucky twice.

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