Last post on Mar 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM
You are in the Toyota Camry
What is this discussion about?
Nissan Maxima, Toyota Camry, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Sedan
#60 of 99 update from Motor Trend
Sep 29, 2006 (4:25 am)
The most recent Motor Trend speaks VERY highly of the Camry. It beat the others it was compared to, although the Maxima was not in the group. The Altima SE-R was and the Camry still came out on top. If you are still considering a Camry, it is a must read. They even loved the tranny! The quickest in the group, albeit by a fraction at 6.1 0-60. Not sure if the comparo was of the 2007 Altima with the 270hp engine. I think that will go under 6 seconds for sure. I'm still waiting for some press on the new Max and the CVT tranny which sounds superb.
#61 of 99 Re: update from Motor Trend [bv050506]
Sep 29, 2006 (10:39 pm)
bv, I saw the article in Motor Trend also.
That was a 2006 Nissan Altima SE-R. The 2007
SE-R apparently won't be available until sometime in the spring.
#62 of 99 Re: update from Motor Trend [bv050506]
Sep 30, 2006 (12:48 am)
" Not sure if the comparo was of the 2007 Altima with the 270hp engine. I think that will go under 6 seconds for sure."
Apparently, the 07 Camry shares the identical drivetrain/ecu/compression ratios/etc. as the Lexus ES 350 which produces 272 hp because it uses 91 octain gasoline. So, technically, if you were to spend the extra little bit at the gas stations and opt for 91 octane... you'd also be producing 272 hp and thus 2 more hp than the new Altima.
#63 of 99 Motor Trend details
Sep 30, 2006 (2:26 pm)
It was the Toyota Camry SE vs. Mitsubishi Galant Ralliart vs. Chev Malibu SS vs. Nissan Altima SE-R
Here's the score card. 1st place) Toyota Camry SE: Best overall package on a superb new platform. Performance, quality, safety, and comfort -- what a concept.
2nd Place) Nissan Altima SE-R: If you put more emphais on sport than sedan, this is you car. Can't wait to test the new one.
3rd Place) Mitsubuishi Galant Ralliart: A nicer car than its third place finish indicates. Doesn't overwhelm, but does everything well.
4th Place) Chev Malibu SS: In this case, you don't get what you don't pay for. Costs less, but gives less. We'd like to try one with GM's 3.6 L DOHC V6 and a 6 speed automatic, even if it costs $1000 more.
#64 of 99 Re: Motor Trend details [drjames]
Oct 05, 2006 (11:00 am)
You have it exactly as printed, thanks for the accuracy. The real surprise for me was the Mitsubuishi which sounded and looked like a very nice car. Vastly improved.
#65 of 99 Re: Motor Trend details [bv050506]
Oct 05, 2006 (1:32 pm)
"You have it exactly as printed, thanks for the accuracy. The real surprise for me was the Mitsubuishi which sounded and looked like a very nice car. Vastly improved."
No problems... as for the Mitsu... Just keep praying that they don't go bankrupt, eh?
#66 of 99 Re: Maxima or Camry [drjames]
Oct 07, 2006 (11:15 am)
And the Maxima (3599 - 3617 lbs) also weighs 100 to 150 lbs more than the Camry depending on trim level of Camry (3461 - 3516).
Oh... and since you seem to appreciate the dynamics of what creates a fast car.... The Maxima has an coefficient drag of 0.30 versus the extremely lower coefficient drag of the Camry at 0.28.
Also, the Maxima runs a 0 to 60 time of 6.5 seconds (Road & Track) to a 7.1 seconds (consumer reports) versus a 0 to 60 run in the V6 Camry in 6.1 (Road & Track) seconds to 6.2 seconds (consumer reports).
So urbancar, forget about 'theoretically', because literally, the 2007 Camry 3.5L is faster than the Maxima objectively, subjectively and in reality.
The Camry did 0-60 in 7.1 seconds on edmunds. An earlier Camry that they tested did it in 6.5 seconds. They explained the difference in acceleration in the take-off of the car. So, i believe that time of 7.1 seconds from consumer reports was not under ideal traction conditions.
#67 of 99 Re: Maxima or Camry [rennie4]
Oct 07, 2006 (7:56 pm)
"The Camry did 0-60 in 7.1 seconds on edmunds. An earlier Camry that they tested did it in 6.5 seconds. They explained the difference in acceleration in the take-off of the car. So, i believe that time of 7.1 seconds from consumer reports was not under ideal traction conditions. "
Yeah, with no offence to the editors here at Edmuns. I believe the editors of such magazines as Road & Track or Motor Trend using closed race tracks for testing are much better at lauching and racing their cars. That said, the editors at edmunds should have tried a 0-60 run with the VSC/traction control deactivated.
I'd agree that the consumer reports editors too probably could have gotten a better time in testing the Maxima than 7.1 sec.. which is why I posted the best time of 6.5sec (Road and Track) I could find.
Quite simply, the 07 Camry should faster than the Maxima simply because of the better power to weight ratio and lower co-efficent drag. Doesn't matter how good the driver is, these advantages are simply in the Camry's favour.
Oct 09, 2006 (6:45 pm)
Is the horsepower and torque ratings always power to the wheels? That would include the efficiency of the transmission in the equation.
I can't wait to start selling the new Altima. We have a Maxima in our showroom with tricked out Nismo wheels and low profile tires that looks very, very sweet. Even though I am selling Nissan, I find the '07 Camry much better looking. Not nearly as dull looking as before. The CVT/tiptronic tranny in the Maxima is great. Super responsive, smooth, quiet. I have not driven the new Camry yet.
#69 of 99 Re: Maxima or Camry [blindmantoo]
Nov 05, 2006 (1:36 pm)
Before I bought my '07 Toyota Camry XLE V6 I owned a 2002 Nissan Maxima SE and loved it. I had zero problems with the car except I kept having my Zenon headlights ripped out (twice they were stolen) of the car, hence my reason for selling it. I actually liked my Maxima better than my new Camry. I seemed faster even though it had a 255hp V6 instead of the Camry's 268hp V6. I had no transmission problems either. I also thought it was a better looking car. I really didn't care for the new style Maximas so I bought the Camry.