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Replying to: urbancar (Sep 25, 2006 3:18 pm) LOL! Yeah... that's be 'significant' if it were true. The Toyota 3.5L V6 actually produces 248 lb.ft. of torque at 4700 rpm.
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Replying to: drjames (Sep 25, 2006 6:52 pm) Oh... and since you seem to appreciate the dynamics of what creates a fast car.... The Maxima has an coefficient drag of 0.30 versus the extremely lower coefficient drag of the Camry at 0.28. Also, the Maxima runs a 0 to 60 time of 6.5 seconds (Road & Track) to a 7.1 seconds (consumer reports) versus a 0 to 60 run in the V6 Camry in 6.1 (Road & Track) seconds to 6.2 seconds (consumer reports). So urbancar, forget about 'theoretically', because literally, the 2007 Camry 3.5L is faster than the Maxima objectively, subjectively and in reality.
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Replying to: pat (Sep 07, 2006 8:31 am)
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Replying to: gateway2 (Sep 26, 2006 5:42 am) In that context, I thought that the prior comment was the classic HP = performance characteristics, and tried to illustrate the differences. Indeed, the 07 Camry has a new and impressive engine. The peak HP weight ratio is better (268/3461 (LE version, per Yahoo) =0.77) vs. 255/3579 (SL version, per Yahoo) = 0.071). This is about a 9.2% difference in peak HP/wt. ratio between the two. The Maxima engine still produces a slightly greater amount of peak torque (252 ft pounds vs. 248). These are substantially equivalent figures. However, the Maxima's characteristics are still different, in which peak torque is produced at 4400 vs. 4700 rpms, and peak HP for Maxima at 6000 rpms vs. 6200 for Camry. Without driving the two side by side, it is still an open question which of the two cars would be quicker in a given midrange of accelleration, e.g. executing a pass at highway speed. The coefficient of drag factor is interesting, but tends to come more into play at higher speeds. The drive train loss factor may favor the Maxima over an automatic version of the Camry (my general understanding, without having this quantified) is that the current Maxima CVT produces less loss at any given point, and executes shifts with less loss at those times. I would not dispute an expert reviewer/magazine figure for 0-60, in which a slight edge goes to the Camry (likely mostly a function of about 100lbs greater curb weight for the Maxima). All in all, in terms of pure speed/accelleration, the two engines/drivetrains seem very comparable, with the Toyota having the edge off the line, and at a very long distance, and my semi educated bet (without having driven the two side by side) of the Max still having an edge in midrange accelleration. None of this affects the great ugliness advantage of the Camry. However, I do have to admit having made a serious wrong assumption on the specs. My apologies.
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Replying to: urbancar (Sep 26, 2006 10:25 am)
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Replying to: urbancar (Sep 26, 2006 10:25 am) As for looks? lol... now you're trying to use a subjective argument? |
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Replying to: rennie4 (Sep 26, 2006 12:13 pm) |
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Replying to: urbancar (Sep 25, 2006 3:18 pm)
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Replying to: bv050506 (Sep 27, 2006 8:58 am) cars back to back if you're wanting to compare the two vehicles, specifically the acceleration part. I was wondering, are the quotes on the 0-60 times on the Maxima for the '07 model that were quoted from Road and Track and Consumer Reports? I recall that the '06 Maxima had a 0-60 in 6.1 or 6.2 seconds. I believe that comparo was from Car & Driver.
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Replying to: maximafan (Sep 27, 2006 8:50 pm) |
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