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Honda Civic, Hyundai Sonata, Coupe, Sedan
#79 of 151 Civic vs Hyundai
Aug 26, 2006 (2:01 pm)
I own a 2001 Hyundai xg300.I bought new.It looks brand new and has only 24,000 miles on it.Having nothing to do one day I stopped in a Honda dealer to look at their cars,and test drove a '06 Civic.Not bad,told salesman just looking.He said when I was ready to deal,to sell my car first they didn't want my XG as a trade in,since it wasn't worth anything,I said fine I'buy a Sonata,Hyundai will give me a much better car and decent trade in.What arragence.
#80 of 151 Re: Civic vs Hyundai [senior]
Aug 26, 2006 (3:28 pm)
I've found arrogance at Honda, Toyota and Nissan dealers. Maybe if I had gone to Ford and Chevy dealers I would have gotten the same thing. The Chrysler dealers were pleasant enough, got to drive anything I wanted. Of course at that time a Hyundai never even entered my consciousness. The more I read, the more road tests I watch on Edmund's the better I feel that I made the right choice buying a Sonata. The dealer seems genuinely interested in my repeat business. They seem competent, though I haven't had to really use them much. I have dealt with the local Ford, Chrysler, Dodge and Chevrolet dealers in the past and they have left me from luke warm to raging in their service of past vehicles. Time will tell.
#81 of 151 Re: Civic vs Hyundai [cajuncycler]
Aug 26, 2006 (4:48 pm)
Good luck with your dealer service and good luck regarding the "E" (forget its name) storm predicted to hit the Gulf.
#82 of 151 Nissan dealers have no reason at all
Aug 26, 2006 (7:55 pm)
to be arrogant. That's ridiculous. Nissan cars and trucks are good but not that good. Honda dealers should be smarter than that, too. Acting like their cars are the best doesn't make Honda's the best. And Toyota is having big-time quality control issues now. Word has it that they have fired most of their experienced engineers? What is up with that news, gentlemen?
If it's true Toyota quality will get worse before it gets better. Hyundai and my favorite Kia are looking better all the time for a new car choice.
#83 of 151 Re: sonata>civic any time any day [wolverinejoe80]
Aug 26, 2006 (9:30 pm)
her civic has misaligned panels every where. i mean i own an acura and never had a problem with build quality.
anyway, brake is making noise. we are definitely taking it to the service.
#84 of 151 Re: Nissan dealers have no reason at all [iluvmysephia1]
Aug 27, 2006 (9:43 am)
Well to be fair the local Honda dealer is also the local Mercedes and BMW dealer. I suppose most people who walk through their doors are expected to pay a premium for the cars they sell. Price is the ultimate snobbery after all.
#85 of 151 Re: Civic vs Hyundai [senior]
Aug 28, 2006 (6:40 am)
I've never had an "arrogant" experience at the dealership we use, but it is a "small-town" type dealership, not a megastore near the interstate.
Our Honda dealer didn't want to trade-in our 1996 Chrysler Sebring Convertible back in the late 90s (we were trading it on a Civic EX coupe, 1998). The sales manager told us, flat out, that the car was not something most perspective Honda customers were likely to want. It turns out that he was correct; the car sat on the used portion of the lot for over two months, before finally taking the car to auction..
Perhaps the Honda dealer felt like he couldn't sell the Hyundai on his lot and make a profit, while offering you a fair price? It's not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that Hyundai's still aren't on the good side of the resale wagon...yet. A Hyundai dealer is much more apt to sell a used, reasonably low-demand Hyundai.
#86 of 151 2006 Civic Ex sedan..more noises
Aug 29, 2006 (4:04 am)
We bought a new 2006 Civic a little less than a year ago, it was one of the first several thousand built in the Ohio plant. From day one and with 9 miles on the odometer I noticed a faint right rear suspension noise. In July with 4500 miles the noise got so bad even my wife commented on it and she drove our old 62 Falcon without oil back in about 1970 long enough for it to lock up and never heard all the rod bearings knocking like hell. Anyhow, both rear shocks leaked with the right side dry and clanking. Yeah, they were replaced under warranty but I had to take a day off work and wait in a dealer lounge yet again with a new Honda yet! Now I hear another commonly reported noise in the front "glovebox area" thought to be a motor mount but not yet covered by a TSB or any other Honda issued remedy I have found. I truly wish I had gone forward with my original plan to buy a 2006 Sonata LX (now Limited)back then. Fuel economy is not everything..nice but not everything. Speaking of fuel economy the Civic seems to be getting about 24 to 25 around town, sounds good right? well I have a rental 2006 Chevy Malibu with a 4 cylinder right now that has a fuel economy readout and it is at 23.4 with similar type in town driving and posted 30+ in mixed highway, mountain, and mountain with 4 passengers driving.I am NOT a Chevrolet fan but that seems pretty good to me. So, I am not really pleased with the Honda and think it is beautiful to look at but rides on the coat-tails its previous great reputation and is overpriced to boot. I had owned 2 Santa Fe's and an Elantra before the Honda mistake and I am going back to Hyundai.
#87 of 151 Re: Nissan dealers have no reason at all [cajuncycler]
Sep 08, 2006 (6:08 am)
Re. Mercedes dealers and people expected to pay premium prices, this is generally correct. This is off topic, but here's an example that supports "cajuncyclers" statement: Mercedes-Benz anti-freeze/coolant, some of the best coolant you can buy, costs $22/gallon at the dealer. But, wait, it's made by Valvoline for Mercedes! Smart shoppers know Valvoline Zerex G-05 coolant is exactly the same chemical formulation, and even the same color (yellow), available at NAPA for $11/gallon. Now, back on topic . . .
#88 of 151 Re: Civic vs Hyundai [thegraduate]
Sep 08, 2006 (6:19 am)
We live in a Big Ten conference university "town," and our Honda dealer is a combined BMW/Honda dealership. They are cordial and helpful, but there is a tinge of arrogance in their interaction with customers. And, their service prices are very high in my opinion, maybe a result of the BMW franchise.
While between jobs a few years ago, I worked as a salesman at a local domestic new car dealer, and we were instructed never to denegrate the competition, either dealerships or products. Any good salesperson knows it's not really ethical, or nice, to knock the competition. However, I see this happening often at Honda and Toyota dealerships, especially in relation to Hyundai. Perhaps Hyundai has finally gotten their attention??