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Honda Civic, Hyundai Sonata, Coupe, Sedan
#2 of 151 Civic vs. Sonata
Jul 03, 2006 (9:40 am)
Don't get this wrong. I'm not beating on the Civic but I priced the Civic LX automatic and EX automatic w/o Nav. I compared the prices with the 2006 Sonata GLS and GLS V6.
It turned out EX MSRP is 19,810, Invoice is 18,164, TMV is 19,289. Compared to the Sonata GLS V6 with a moonroof MSRP is 22,395, Invoice is 20,661, TMV is 21,039. Subtract the 2,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 18,539, a difference of 750. A larger car, passenger room and trunk, a V6 engine, and $750 cheaper!
The Civic LX MSRP is 18,060, Invoice is 16,568, TMV is 17,596. Compared with the Sonata GLS with no added options MSRP is 19,995, Invoice is 18,496, TMV is 18,817. Subtract the 1,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 17,317. A larger car, 20 more horses, and $279 cheaper.
I hear that the 2006 Civic is having problems with faulty struts. My price range is under 20,000. I'm looking at all my options. One thing I like about the Civic is the gas mileage, the new styling, and the IIHS gold rating but the Sonata with the incentives makes a pretty good deal.
#3 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [luvmbooty]
Jul 03, 2006 (3:49 pm)
A Civic is not a Sonata! Sonata is aimed at Accord. In the Sonata/Accord war,,, Honda wins. As Accordian like as the civic is. The new Accord will be out in a year. aHonda V6 will always lay waiste to a Korean mill.
To be in a position like yours shoping price point is what the Koreans hope will happen. They have came a long way. Honda will be running year end on current Accords in a few weeks. I would never cross shop a Sonata/Civic. But I would darn sure put Accord up against it in a heart beat. As dated as Hondas J30 V6 is its a war horse compared to Sonata's mill. Fact is I would buy a Ford Fuzion over a Sonata. I would never buy a auto Civic.
as good as Sonata is,,,, its not Civic or Accord.
#4 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [psy]
Jul 03, 2006 (4:00 pm)
Why wouldn't you cross shop two cars in a similar price range? If the Civic and Sonata are both about 20 grand and you're looking for a decent car, they're comparable.
I think the Civic is the better car. It wins on styling, mpg and resale. My Coupe had a bad rear shock that took half a day to replace. I would expect a Sonata to go back for warranty work at least once, so I think they're cpmparable there, too.
#5 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [psy]
Jul 03, 2006 (4:00 pm)
Not seeing a reason to buy a Fusion over a Sonata unless you just have some ingrained hatred of all Korean cars.
Civic would make sense if fuel economy is a major priority.
#6 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [psy]
Jul 04, 2006 (12:40 am)
I've researched the Ford Fusion and, according to IIHS.org, "...the Fusion is at the back of the pack among midsize cars for overall safety performance." Decent protection is important to me. The Sonata doesn't have a GOLD rating but IIHS said,"Sonata shows big improvement in front and side tests." Civic received a GOLD rating by IIHS but a larger and heavier car is safer to be in. As for the Accord, IIHS rated frontal GOOD, side GOOD, and rear POOR.
Personally, the Accord is too common. Everyone and their mother has one and being that its common and in demand means dealers won't deal. Your more likely to pay closer to sticker price for V6 Accord, which isn't in my price range. I'm just trying to get the most for my money.
#7 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [luvmbooty]
Jul 04, 2006 (12:57 am)
Actually, the 2006 Accord has a $1000 manufacturer to dealer incentive down here (Texas) and it is incredibly easy to get deals around invoice less $800 (or more).
Just check out the Accord Deals forum here for details.
#8 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [slowpedaler]
Jul 05, 2006 (8:44 am)
Yes, to all who have about 20K to spend on a new car by all means cross shop everything that costs near that. For myself as a previous 2X hyundai owner for whom this is my first Honda product I am plainly disappointed in my Civic with its problems...two, not one, rear shock leaking and faulty from new. Also a lack of standard features such as stability and traction controls, power seats, and more that the cheapest Sonata has. Lots of road noise and yes, I love the styling and fuel economy. So from the standpoint of being both a Honda and Hyundai owner don't get too smug about Honda and whatever you do don't dismiss Hyundai as an also ran. Neither Hyundai required any repairs...oh yeah the clock display died on the last one and they replaced it but nothing basic like shocks. Everybody seems to think it is an honor to own a Honda even with all the repairs needed. I, for one, don't look at having to have a new car (3600 miles) repaired as an adventure...I have had my fill of taking time off work to sit around dealerships waiting for repairs. I had a Ford not too long ago..so no, not the Hyundai!!!
#9 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [luvmbooty]
Jul 05, 2006 (9:17 am)
I would like to reply to your original post. I do not have the rah rah Honda bias that you would expect on this site. As a previous Hyundai owner I absolutely recommend you cross shop the Civic (since it is the closest in price to the Sonata)with a Sonata..and any other around $20K car. Personally, I wish I would have stuck to my original plan to replace my Santa Fe with a 2006 Sonata but gas hit $3.25 per for the first time ever last fall so good-by Santa Fe and hello...what? The current body style Elantra was then 5 model years old and due for the remodeling they are releasing this fall so it was out...the Corolla was too common looking...the Mazda 3? well, I didn't even consider it and that left the striking new 2006 Civic...40 MPG and a Honda to boot! Wow what a combination so I bought it at $19,860...no discount as they were selling them before they were built. Six months later and two leaking rear shocks, different rear ride height, the harmonic vibration with the unknown cause, the recall in the very first week of ownership..time already spent at the dealer and more to come with the replacement of the shocks well, I do wish I had bought the Sonata and I'll take the flack for saying it in this company. So if you try the Sonata I do not think you will be disappointed...go for it!!
#10 of 151 Re: Civic vs. Sonata [targettuning]
Jul 05, 2006 (10:12 pm)
While I'm sure there has to be some problems with the new Sonata and I have not ready every post in every Sonata forum, it is surprising that with casual browsing I am seeing more problem reports with cars like the new Civic and Camry than with the new Sonata.
The complaints I see about the Sonata are things like incomplete steering wheel audio controls and lack of aux input rather than transmission failures and other mechanical problems.
Really seems like the 40 mpg highway mileage of the Civic is the best reason to buy it over a Sonata. You will probably get around 10 mpg higher mileage city and highway in a Civic and that is a lot of gas savings.