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Re: funny [eldaino] by backy
Feb 26, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Feb 26, 2007 7:13 am)

More on topic, maybe you saw the MT COTY issue, in which the Fit was a finalist but the Rabbit didn't make the cut for a finalist.
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Re: moparbad [thegraduate] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 20, 2007 9:48 am)

Hey grad! Havent talked to ya in a while.
 
I agree with chrono; ecomomy is relative. I know your accord and accords in general get good mileage, but do you think that despite great milage that anyone tight on the pocket book look at a 21k+ accord as ecomomical even though it can be argued that it is?
 
The scion tc and scions brand in general is marketed as a great quality car that is easy on the pocket book. And yet the tc's all aluminum (lighter, more efficent) 2.4 liter four cylinder gets fractionaly better mileage than the 2.5 five cylinder iron block in the rabbit which weight a lot more. The rabbit gets very competitve mileage, i'm starting to average 30mpg on a regular basis. Not bad for a car with all these factors against it.
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Re: funny [backy] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 26, 2007 7:24 am)

I read it, i thought it was at least a contender though. But thats ok i mean, it doesn't matter to me what motor trend thinks. If they agree that a really nice sport compact is economical enought to be considered against the likes of a fit, i guess that says worlds for the versatility of the rabbit. And kudos for the fit too, some people forget i'm a honda buff too.
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Re: moparbad [thegraduate] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 22, 2007 2:47 pm)

Still getting better milage but, like you said, it weighs even more than your accord, has larger displacement and a whole extra cylinder. 3mpg suddenly doesn't seem like a big deal.
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Re: moparbad [eldaino] by thegraduate
Feb 26, 2007 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Feb 26, 2007 7:28 am)

I know your accord and accords in general get good mileage, but do you think that despite great milage that anyone tight on the pocket book look at a 21k+ accord as ecomomical even though it can be argued that it is?
 
Just like the Rabbit, there are cheapo versions of the Accord too! The Value Package Accords are going for $16k. Mine has many more features than that though, and cost more as a result.
 
And yet the tc's all aluminum (lighter, more efficent) 2.4 liter four cylinder gets fractionaly better mileage than the 2.5 five cylinder iron block in the rabbit which weight a lot more.
 
That same engine in the Camry gets 24/33 MPG I believe, but the Scion has insanely short gearing in my opinion. At 80 MPH in the Automatic (at least the old 4-speed in 2005), RPMs were near 4,000 RPM. Talk about killing mileage! I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but I guess that's just as valid as talking about the Rabbit weighing a lot and hurting mileage. Whats a guy to do?
 
It has been a while since we chatted eldi, nice to see ya!
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Re: moparbad [eldaino] by thegraduate
Feb 26, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Feb 26, 2007 7:36 am)

Still getting better milage but, like you said, it weighs even more than your accord, has larger displacement and a whole extra cylinder. 3mpg suddenly doesn't seem like a big deal.
 
To me, having a compact with 150 horsepower get lower mileage than a midsize with 166 would just drive me crazy. I'm WAY practical though.
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Re: moparbad [thegraduate] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 26, 2007 7:45 am)

I'm WAY practical though.
 
You are arent you? thats cool man, all valid points, i wish i was making more horsies but i really don't mind the torque. I just think my bunny makes a good showing for itself given its disadvantages over other cars.
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Re: moparbad [thegraduate] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 26, 2007 7:43 am)

Hey grad you are right about the camry's number. Man what a difference in gearing! I didnt realize the tc was so high strung in such a bad way! Don't worry about the making of excuses, everyone does it. I know i sure as heck do! Nice to here from ya man.
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Re: funny [eldaino] by backy
Feb 26, 2007 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Feb 26, 2007 7:30 am)

Yes, the Rabbit was a "contender" in the MT COTY competition. ALL of the cars they evaluated were "contenders." The top few, including the Fit, were "finalists."
 
They didn't rank cars on economy. Here is how they did rank the Fit and Rabbit (numbers are numbers of stars awarded for each category, with 5 stars being the best):
 
Category / Fit / Rabbit
 
Engineering / 4 / 3
Design / 4 / 3
Interior / 4 / 4
Performance / 2 / 2
Ease of Use / 4 / 3
Safety / 3 / 3
Value / 5 / 3
 
Although the Rabbit trailed the Fit in 4 categories and tied in the others, MT's harshest criticism on the Rabbit was on its engine, e.g. "The five lacks refinement and feels primitive. It's thrashy and harsh abd seems as if it's been pulled from another era." MT did say several positive things about the Rabbit too. But I won't go into details because you don't care what MT thinks.
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Re: funny [backy] by eldaino
Feb 26, 2007 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 26, 2007 9:15 am)

No no backster, i'm interested its just that i wont take it to heart. Mt has an afficionado for honda, the civic AND ridgeline were coty and toty last year anyway. The interior of the rabbit really is better, if at least only marginally in some peoples eyes, than the fits and i LOVE the interior of the fit. It may be a little bit more traditional looking but it really does excel in the quality of materials used and how they are put together. (you know this backster, i read your review of the car.)
 
in my opinion the engine is hardly thrashy, It is very low revving and exceedingly quiet. I was impressed with that aspect of her the day i bought it; i could hardly hear the engine at idle. The fit is known for having a buzzy engine and many have pointed that out.

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