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Honda Accord, Sedan
May 25, 2009 (8:54 am)
AT the risk of getting criticized like the last few people offering advice, I would like to say that.
The V-6 is no more likely to last than the I4. Don't take that into consideration. An I4 can last as long as you want it to. I have a 1990 Integra with 230,000 miles. My brother has a 1995 G20 (2.0 Nissan I4) with over 300,000 miles. Neither has been rebuilt. Good modern engines last longer than the body of the car if taken care of.
If you want the best of both worlds get an I4 MT. Pretty near V-6 acceleration with even better mpg than the I4 AT. Also lighter and more nimble (70 lbs off of the nose), and less expensive. I mention this since you seem interested in the "fun" aspect, and the MT certainly helps in that regard.
#807 of 825 Re: Used V6 vs V4 [stephen987]
May 25, 2009 (9:03 am)
Well maybe if some posters would not try to educate me on the subtle difference between V4 and I4 which incidentally I gave an apologetic response admitting my gaffe right before the scolding and being put down by another poster. Perhaps then, my initial response would not have the tone it had. Injecting phrases such as "you will be take more serious ...." do not make a friendly response and generally will not be met with flowers and candy by most intelligent posters.
Teaching and lecturing are entirely two different animals, especially when the latter is provided in condescending manner.
#808 of 825 Re: - [dudleyr]
May 25, 2009 (9:13 am)
You mention cars from 1990s (specifically 1990 and 1995). Their engines are legendary and I would be the last one to argue that they are anything but workhorses. The problem is when you buy used the history of that particular vehicle is an enigma. Therefore, since it is more difficult to over abuse a V6 than a I4, it would be prudent to go for V6. Most people who drive V6 Accords do not use more than 40% of this engine potential and it is possible to get a fairly fresh engine by being a careful buyer (and having a little bit of luck).
As for manual trans. option. Two things: wife and NYC make it impossible.
#809 of 825 Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx]
May 25, 2009 (12:22 pm)
The folks here are trying to help. Remember that message board communication is difficult as we don't have tone of voice and facial expressions to help us interpret what is being typed. I am sorry that you interpreted some genuine attempts to help you as "lectures", but honestly, I didn't see them that way.
It is a fact that many people around here use the term "V4" for a four cylinder engine, just assuming that since many 6 cylinder engines have the cylinders laid out in a V shape, that 4 cylinders are as well. Since the layout of the engine cylinders is an important feature of the car, I can understand why the thinking is that a buyer will come across better to a salesman if he demonstrates that knowledge.
On the other hand, there seems to be a fair number of car salesman who may not understand it themselves, unfortunately, so it really may not be that big of a deal.
In any case, I hope you can take the advice offered in the spirit in which it was intended - to be helpful.
Good luck to you.
#810 of 825 Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx]
May 25, 2009 (2:13 pm)
"Like I already stated, I fully understand the difference between V4 and I4".
Do you, really? Then, why not type it correctly, and avoid being corrected? I think you should buy a Sebring.
#811 of 825 Re: Used V6 vs V4 [pat]
May 25, 2009 (5:06 pm)
Knowing whether a car is V4 or I4 will not get anyone a better deal when buying. Negotiation skills are not correlated with car knowledge. I have seen people haggle with great finnese and extraordinary skill, getting a very good deal not because they knew the difference between I4 and V4 but because they came from a sales background or were lawyers. I have also seen people who would put 50 average folks to shame with their car knowledge receiving less than decent deals because they lacked negotiations skills. Simply put car knowledge has very little to do with getting a fair price. I am even willing to state that this kind of mechanical infraction (saying V4 where I4 should be used) would not even be noticed by the sales person.
As for being taken seriously. The minute $$$ is put on the table a good sales person will know who is a buyer and serious about purchasing a vehicle and who is there to lecture and act all knowledgeable thinking that knowing intricate details of the product will somehow impress the salesman and who in admiration or perhaps as a reward for being so intimately familiar with the product being sold, would be willing to knock off another couple hundred bucks. LOL!
#812 of 825 Re: Used V6 vs V4 [elroy5]
May 26, 2009 (6:41 am)
.....El5 - - - your Sebring thought says a bunch. I offer Road & Track (3/04) to qualify your words. The three-way Accord/Solara/Sebring comparo helped me end up with an AV6 6M.
keep up the good work.
May 27, 2009 (7:19 am)
I just bought a 09 accord V6, I test drove the I4 190Hp. It probably would have been a good vehicle but I am replacing my 2000 accord V6 which I bought new and have enjoyed the V6 from day one. The 09 accord is a larger car than my 2000 and I sure couldn't see dropping HP instead of gaining a little for the extra weight. It is about pesonal preference between a little more money per fillup versus the extra power and quietness of the V6.
#814 of 825 Re: V6 vs I4 [drhuntr]
May 27, 2009 (10:37 am)
I'll assume you purchased a sedan and have the same V6 I have in my 08. I'd be interested in getting your impressions on the difference in sound compared to your 2000. Not that the current 6 is necessarily a bad sounding engine but I feel it has lost some of it's refinement and free revving qualities as it's increased in displacement. After you've given it a proper break in I'd just like to get your comparative impressions say between 4000-6000 rpm. Depending on the terrain and your driving style you may not be giving up to much in fuel economy.
Aug 15, 2009 (6:12 pm)
After much research, countless excursions to a variety of dealers, I have found my new vehicle. A 2004 EXV6 1 owner Honda Accord with Leather seats that are soothing to look at and feel heavenly to boot. For all those contemplating whether a V6 is more fun the answer on my side of the fence is a resounding YES! It is worth it for those who enjoy driving and do not want to fork 10K more to experience it in something from BMW. While V4 (uuuppps I mean I4) is OK for commuting, V6 is just plain more fun.... in every category less quenching V6's thirst, but that is a minor gripe when gas hovers around $3