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Honda Accord I4 vs V6

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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by thegraduate
May 24, 2009 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 24, 2009 2:17 pm)

It might help you be taken a bit more seriously if you call it a "four cylinder engine" or an "inline four" as opposed to a "vee four" when it comes time to talk to a dealer. I see V4 typed all the time though; no biggie!
 
I have a 4-cylinder Accord with the automatic ('06) and have never found it sluggish when loaded, even with 4 adults on board merging onto our 70 MPH interstates (I-59 and I-459 in Birmingham). Yes, the V6 is faster, but the 4-cylinder feels easily as peppy as a V6 sedan from 10 years ago, if not peppier due to great gearing and a flexible powerband.
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by elroy5
May 24, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 24, 2009 1:28 pm)

I have an 03 V6. If you think you would use, and enjoy the V6 power, I would recommend it. It will cost you a little more, at purchase, at the pump, and for maintenance (timing belt every 100k miles). I think the V6 is well worth the extra costs. Drive both for yourself, then decide. The effortless, and silent way the V6 moves this car, even when you're not gunning it, makes it feel more high-end.
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by blufz1
May 24, 2009 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 24, 2009 1:28 pm)

You can never have too much money or too much torque. Get the V6.
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [thegraduate] by saxon2nsx
May 24, 2009 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 24, 2009 2:53 pm)

Like I already stated, I fully understand the difference between V4 and I4. Will dealers respect me or take me more seriously?? I could not care less. My negotiation skills are in no way connected to my ability to differentiate between the two types of engines. I am there to buy the car not to impress the dealer.
 
I also understand fully the prevailing notion that I4 Accords are peppy and that the 4 cillinder version will merge effortlessly getting on highways. Again, bad reading skills. My drive has a lot to do with curves and stop and go traffic (two things interstates are not famous for). Therefore information on merging onto one is neither important nor the opinion I was seeking. Please, next time when answering a question, it would be pertinent to focus on the questions and relevant responses that ought to fill the answer box. This way one could impress the reader and perhaps "be taken a bit more seriously"?
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by stephen987
May 25, 2009 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 24, 2009 9:54 pm)

Nowhere in your original post did you specify that you do not use interstate highways. Therefore, there was no way we could know that we would anger you by providing information that most people would care about.
 
Perhaps you would get better responses if you treated your fellow posters as a resource rather than as your inferiors.
 
Did you come here for information and input? Or for a fight?
 
Over and out--I'm done feeding this troll. Anyone else wanna take a turn?
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by thegraduate
May 25, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 24, 2009 9:54 pm)

Didn't realize that my run to 70 MPH was so drastically different from your run to 65 MPH.
 
And, if a dealer sees a customer as uninformed, he's more likely to be willing to deal.
 
As far as talking down your nose at everyone... give me a break. We replied to you kindly trying to help and got a sarcastic snotty response in return.
 
Good luck car shopping. I'm through here.
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- by dudleyr
May 25, 2009 (8:54 am)
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AT the risk of getting criticized like the last few people offering advice, I would like to say that.
 
The V-6 is no more likely to last than the I4. Don't take that into consideration. An I4 can last as long as you want it to. I have a 1990 Integra with 230,000 miles. My brother has a 1995 G20 (2.0 Nissan I4) with over 300,000 miles. Neither has been rebuilt. Good modern engines last longer than the body of the car if taken care of.
 
If you want the best of both worlds get an I4 MT. Pretty near V-6 acceleration with even better mpg than the I4 AT. Also lighter and more nimble (70 lbs off of the nose), and less expensive. I mention this since you seem interested in the "fun" aspect, and the MT certainly helps in that regard.
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [stephen987] by saxon2nsx
May 25, 2009 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (May 25, 2009 6:05 am)

Well maybe if some posters would not try to educate me on the subtle difference between V4 and I4 which incidentally I gave an apologetic response admitting my gaffe right before the scolding and being put down by another poster. Perhaps then, my initial response would not have the tone it had. Injecting phrases such as "you will be take more serious ...." do not make a friendly response and generally will not be met with flowers and candy by most intelligent posters.
Teaching and lecturing are entirely two different animals, especially when the latter is provided in condescending manner.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by saxon2nsx
May 25, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (May 25, 2009 8:54 am)

You mention cars from 1990s (specifically 1990 and 1995). Their engines are legendary and I would be the last one to argue that they are anything but workhorses. The problem is when you buy used the history of that particular vehicle is an enigma. Therefore, since it is more difficult to over abuse a V6 than a I4, it would be prudent to go for V6. Most people who drive V6 Accords do not use more than 40% of this engine potential and it is possible to get a fairly fresh engine by being a careful buyer (and having a little bit of luck).
As for manual trans. option. Two things: wife and NYC make it impossible.
 
regards
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Re: Used V6 vs V4 [saxon2nsx] by pat HOST
May 25, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: saxon2nsx (May 25, 2009 9:03 am)

The folks here are trying to help. Remember that message board communication is difficult as we don't have tone of voice and facial expressions to help us interpret what is being typed. I am sorry that you interpreted some genuine attempts to help you as "lectures", but honestly, I didn't see them that way.
 
It is a fact that many people around here use the term "V4" for a four cylinder engine, just assuming that since many 6 cylinder engines have the cylinders laid out in a V shape, that 4 cylinders are as well. Since the layout of the engine cylinders is an important feature of the car, I can understand why the thinking is that a buyer will come across better to a salesman if he demonstrates that knowledge.
 
On the other hand, there seems to be a fair number of car salesman who may not understand it themselves, unfortunately, so it really may not be that big of a deal.
 
In any case, I hope you can take the advice offered in the spirit in which it was intended - to be helpful.
 
Good luck to you.

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