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#530 of 539 Re: - [dudleyr] by thegraduate Aug 15, 2008 (10:14 am)
Replying to: dudleyr (Aug 15, 2008 10:03 am) I also firmly believe that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I loved zipping around town in my old '90 Corolla wagon with a stick - winding it up when needed. My Sienna minivan is much faster, but not nearly as fun because it is so effortless and detached.   I'd agree. I like zipping around in my '96 Accord (alas, it does have an auto), even going faster than I normally would in the other car. I don't know why! Replies to this message: ljgbjg (Aug 15, 2008 11:29 am)
#531 of 539 Re: Apples to Apples [satforn] by ljgbjg Aug 15, 2008 (11:12 am)
Replying to: satforn (Aug 15, 2008 8:58 am) "As a fellow attorney (I'm not really sure why you had to point this out...other than to pat yourself on the back)"   Usually we are quite particular about facts - that was my point - somewhat of an excuse for my behavior rather than a pat on the back as you see it. Anal even - more so than most - consider it a flaw or an asset - it is often a double edged sword.
#532 of 539 Re: Apples to Apples [thegraduate] by ljgbjg Aug 15, 2008 (11:26 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 15, 2008 9:02 am) If we can bury the hatchet graduate - "I really want to like them, its just taking me some time since I'm so used to the previous Accords, which were always a little smaller, a little tauter, and a little more fuel-efficient than the competition."   I agree with you - I think the thing I dislike most about our new car was something I had reservations about from the get go and should have gotten a new 2007 in December last year because of it - its size. It is simply NOT as taut, tidy, neat, smart handling as all our Accords in the past. They were all so efficiently packaged and almost a sport sedan. This car feels to "Buick -like".   Consider your options carefully - you may want a used TL instead.
#533 of 539 Re: - [thegraduate] by ljgbjg Aug 15, 2008 (11:29 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 15, 2008 10:14 am) My '65 Corsa was more fun to drive than my 396 SS Camaro is - why? Stick vs auto, and you could drive it 10/10ths and basically not get into too much trouble. The Camaro? 6 secs and you were illegal. I can see why many consider the 190 HP 5 speed sedan the most fun Accord Sedan to drive.
#534 of 539 Re: - [dudleyr] by dolfan1 Aug 15, 2008 (3:00 pm)
Replying to: dudleyr (Aug 15, 2008 10:03 am) They are fast enough. It's just with each new model generation the bar must be raised just a little higher (or so goes the thinking of car makers desperate to keep up with the competition). The 97 Maxima I drove 10 yrs ago with its 190hp V6 seemed plenty fast to me, though my 07 V6 Accord does seem a little quicker.
#535 of 539 Re: - [dudleyr] by elroy5 Aug 15, 2008 (3:08 pm)
Replying to: dudleyr (Aug 15, 2008 10:03 am) So why is a car that is faster than this Maxima not fast enough? Has the human perception of speed changed in 20 years?   Yes, what was considered fast 20 years ago, is not considered fast now. We expect things to get better/faster with each redesign. Computers that were considered fast, 20 years ago, are now considered slow too. That's progress. Of course, if you are of the mindset that what was good 20 years ago, is still good enough today, you can save a lot of dough.
#536 of 539 '08 road trip by graphicguy Aug 17, 2008 (7:09 am)
Had 1,000 miles on my '08 EX-L, auto from OH to Philly on the PA turnpike. A/C on all the way. Avg speed was 64 MPH but hit 80 MPH regularly. Aside from the good MPG (32-34), the engine seemed to "open up" during this trip. Is it as fast as the V6? Nope. But, it became much "zingier". I can imagine that it's going to settle in more as the miles pile up. When I've done all "in town" driving, stop and go, my mileage is around 22-23 MPG.   On a 9 hour road trip, you get a good feel for the car. It handled well. Was comfortable and a great companion to take a long trip with. If there was one very slight note, it was that the steering got slightly "light" at elevated speeds (80 MPH). Nothing to knock the car. Just something I noticed.   From a performance perspective, no doubt the V6 would be the way to go. But, if you consider all the other parameters (like fuel economy, comfort, handling, etc), the 190 HP I4 Accord is very nice, mated well to the automatic. Honda did a nice job with the grade logic on this transmission. It's always willing to kick down a gear when I punched it. And, it did so quickly.   I never felt I needed the V6, although it would have been fun, I'm sure. Replies to this message: bvdj84 (Aug 17, 2008 8:04 am) graphicguy (Aug 17, 2008 9:33 am)
#537 of 539 Re: '08 road trip [graphicguy] by bvdj84 Aug 17, 2008 (8:04 am)
Replying to: graphicguy (Aug 17, 2008 7:09 am) Yes, I am glad you said that, from now on, Its true. Mine did the same thing, its almost the best thing for the car, to just drive it.The bummer part though of the 4cyl, is the fact that it wants kick down so much. But, as it breaks-in, it doesn't seem to do it as often.   The V6 would be alot of fun! Now especially when getting the coupe. Replies to this message: graphicguy (Aug 17, 2008 9:33 am)
#538 of 539 Re: '08 road trip [bvdj84] by graphicguy Aug 17, 2008 (9:33 am)
Replying to: bvdj84 (Aug 17, 2008 8:04 am) bvd,,,,the trans kicking down doesn't bother me. It seems to keep the RPMs in the motor's power band. I flog the I4 with regularity. So winding it out seems to make it just beg for more.   The downside, I suspect it hurts the MPG by keeping the revs up. But, so far, even with a green engine, I'm pleased with the fuel economy....particularly for such a large and comfortable car. I've got no beefs with the handling. It's easy to dart around in a car this big. That too, is surprising.
#539 of 539 Not the same car. by gyusher Aug 17, 2008 (4:31 pm)
I wish they would rename either the V-6 car or the 4 cyl car. . . I still see them as two distinctly different cars. Enough so that each could have its own separate identity. . . Then maybe we would stop trying to compare the two and buy the one we either needed or wanted.   Both are very fine automobiles in their own right. I just happened to have the 4 cyl version and each day I like it more as would have been the case if I had bought the V-6.   No arguement here both are great.

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