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Inside Line-First Drive: 2007 Saturn Vue Green Line Hybrid

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Re: Hope it is more reliable [stevedebi] by uga91
Jul 14, 2006 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 10, 2006 12:14 pm)

I see you own a Ford and a Honda--and not a VUE. What is your experience with Saturn to be able to make such a statement? Our VUE is our 4th Saturn and reliability has never been an issue with us. How many Saturns have you owned?
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [stevedebi] by ocmike3
Jul 14, 2006 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 10, 2006 12:14 pm)

And you base this statement: "Than the current Vue, which has pretty poor reliability over all." on data and facts from?
Per JD Powers(which is not biased data as is Consumer Reports), Saturn brand is at least average which is the same as your Ford, and the same as Honda in overall Mfg quality; Mechanical, Interior and Body mfg quality...
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [ocmike3] by stevedebi
Jul 14, 2006 (9:14 pm)
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Replying to: ocmike3 (Jul 14, 2006 7:34 pm)

"Per JD Powers(which is not biased data as is Consumer Reports), Saturn brand is at least average which is the same as your Ford, and the same as Honda in overall Mfg quality; Mechanical, Interior and Body mfg quality..."
 
Not interested in the Saturn brand, only the Vue. JD Powers is only initial quality, correct? Personally, I prefer longer term stuff, and yes, I trust Consumer Union publications. They don't take advertising money.
 
FWIW, CR shows my Freestyle to be poor quality, but their view is distorted by early problems with the AWD model in 2005. They rate the 500 as excellent, and the FW is essentially a 500 with very different sheet metal and suspension. So they can be wrong about a certain model.
 
But I test drove the 2003 Vue, and selected the Honda CR-V hands down. From looking at the Vue forums, I think I made a good choice.
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [stevedebi] by ocmike3
Jul 15, 2006 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 14, 2006 9:14 pm)

JD Powers has initial as well as on-going reliability... they keep track after initial with follow up surveys to see how the vehicles hold up. They generate an overall brand rating also.
The 2006 Vue only has data for initial quality which is average. The initial quality and "Appeal" studies are the ones most often touted in the press.
Per the JD site the 2006 CRV is rated about the same as the VUE in initial quality and Appeal (1/2 step up on IQ and 1/2 step under in Appeal)
I don't think a compare of the 2003 models(VUE/CRV) to the 2006 is equivalent, since the 2006 VUE has the Honda V6 available which is not offered on the CRV... I wouldn't own either with a 4 cylinder.
My next door neighbors are Ford folks and their 2006 Freestyle has been in the shop 3 times for transmission, brakes and air conditioning systems...
All boils down to what you like, how its maintained and ands some draw of luck.
I used to use the CR alot, until I started having quite different experiences than their ratings indicated.(I'm good to our vehicles and we usually run them up to quite a few miles. i.e. our 98 Volvo has 125k miles and many niggling problems since new) CR has been shown to has some bias issues with their data; ran across this which confirmed my suspicions a few years back.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4733
Glad you like your CRV. I had an associate with a 2002 and after a year she couldn't get rid of it fast enough... to each in his own.
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [ocmike3] by stevedebi
Aug 22, 2006 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: ocmike3 (Jul 15, 2006 8:10 pm)

"My next door neighbors are Ford folks and their 2006 Freestyle has been in the shop 3 times for transmission, brakes and air conditioning systems..."
 
And I have a 2006 FreeStyle and it hasn't been in the shop for anything except an oil change.
 
BTW, I might have bought the 2003 Vue if it had the Honda V6, but the CR-V 4 is plenty powerful for that size vehicle.
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [stevedebi] by ocmike3
Aug 22, 2006 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 22, 2006 5:24 pm)

Their 2006 Freestyle has now added a water leak on the back side window(2 trips).
I just got back a week or so ago from 8-9 days of road travel in the VUE. 4200+ miles with out a sniffle. Got overall 25.6 mpg - see my post #41 on the "Saturn Vue: MPG-Real World Numbers" forum.
I think you might have given the VUE serious thought in 2003 if it had the Honda V6 - it is very different than the 4 cyl. and I preferred it to the GM V6 offered in the Equinox etc...
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [ocmike3] by bobw3
Aug 26, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: ocmike3 (Aug 22, 2006 7:05 pm)

But the Vue only holds 5 pass.
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Re: Hope it is more reliable [bobw3] by ocmike3
Aug 26, 2006 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Aug 26, 2006 12:39 pm)

I suppose if I had needed room for 6/7 I would have looked at something with a third row. We rarely have just 2/3 visitors and so a 5 passenger rig fits 99% of our needs well.
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Hybrid Coming to Los Angeles by horatio
Aug 27, 2006 (8:43 pm)
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Just spoke with a dealer in Los Angeles, California. Says, Hybrids being built as we speak and should be in dealerships within a month, at the latest, by Oct 7th.
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Re: Hybrid Coming to Los Angeles [horatio] by txpioneer
Aug 28, 2006 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: horatio (Aug 27, 2006 8:43 pm)

The information I received from my salesman at the Plano dealership (suburb of Dallas) is that my car has been built but has not shipped yet. He thinks they maybe holding up shipping to release a big group of the Hybrids all at once.
 
I'm looking forward to having a Hybrid! This will be my 4th Saturn.

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