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#659 of 1262 Re: Excessive rear tire wear [terryr2]
Sep 17, 2007 (6:40 pm)
Here is a letter I sent off to Honda Canada for issues I have been having.
To Whom It May Concern:
I would like to put in a formal complaint in regard to the newly redesigned 2006 Civic. This is our 5th Civic we have owned since 1999. In the past we have owned a 1999 Si coupe, 2002 Si Veloz coupe, 2004 SE sedan and 2005 Si sedan. We have had nothing but pleasure when it came to these cars. However, things changed when we purchased our 2006 Civic.
We bought our 2006 Civic EX sedan from Honda Red Deer Sales in June of 2006 thinking that we bought another safe and reliable Honda. We received our first snowfall in October of 2006, I packed up the family and headed into town which was a 14 km drive on the highway. As soon as we hit the highway (speed limit was 100 km/hr) I knew there was something wrong, the back end of the car was fishtailing all over the road and felt very “loose”, I was only traveling 60km per hour, other drivers were passing me like I was parked. If I was to go any faster I felt as though the car was going to fly into the ditch. I seriously contemplated turning the car around and making the trip into town the following day after the road was a little clearer, but decided to tough it out. So we traveled the 14 km into town and back home again, all the while traveling at 60 km per hour. Upon arriving back home I decided to jump into my other car (1998 Neon) to make sure that it was not the car that had the issue but the road was really that bad. To my disappointment I discovered that I had absolutely no problem traveling in excess of 100 km/hr! In short, I now refer to our 2006 Civic as a “death trap”!!
During the months of November 2006 to February 2007 we put approximately 3,000 km on the Civic, as it was essentially parked. We only drove the car when we absolutely had to.
Immediately after the above events transpired I approached Honda Red Deer Sales service department with my concerns which I voiced to Pete (service manager at the time). He stated at this point that this was the first they had ever heard of it. He and I took the car for a drive and he proceeded to tell me that the car should have new tires, I was shocked to hear this, as the car only had about 8,000 km on it. As you can see by my history, I have owned 4 Civic’s and never once did I have to replace tires for winter driving, as all are equipped with all season tires. I again voiced my concern that there is a suspension issue with the car, not a tire issue. The back end of the car seems to be too light to maintain adequate traction on less then perfect driving conditions, this included strong cross winds. In March of 2007 we had the car in for service at which point we had the tires balanced, as the back end of the car had a vicious vibration, the balancing made it much better. Approximately three months ago we took the car into the service department, as the back end of the car started to vibrate again. Again they balanced the tires, again the car was better, my wife discussed this issue with Rick, he assured us that a recall will be issued in the next 60 days, to date we still have not heard anything on this. He also mentioned at this time that the tires were wearing unevenly but were still safe. He said that he contacted Honda Canada to discuss this tire issue and told us that they would replace the tires if we flipped 40% of the bill. I am not sure why we should have to pay for tires that had 23,000 km on them at the time that are wearing unevenly due to a suspension issue!! He also stated that there was no guarantee that the new tires would not develop the same problem as the existing tires, thus we decided to wait until the recall was issued. In the middle of August 2007 we went on our annual vacation to Radium, BC which is a 4 ˝ hour drive from our home, the car was not too bad on the way there however on the way home again it developed a vicious vibration which is still there today. We still have not received any kind of acceptable resolution on our issue and are not holding our breath that anything will be resolved. We are tired of being misinformed by the staff at Honda Red Deer Sales. I have lost count of the number of different stories we have received from Management and the Service Writers. No one seems to know what is going on and if there will ever be a fix for this problem.
I have been doing a “little” research on the suspension/tire issue and have discovered some interesting bits of information. I know that Coca-Cola runs 3 2006 Civic’s and have had nothing but problems when it comes to keeping tires on these cars. I have two coworkers that have both owned Civic’s both of which were purchased in the Summer of 2006, since they purchased the cars one co-worker parks his all winter and the other coworker has sold it due to the same issue, unsafe winter driving.
In addition to the above, just today in fact, another coworker had a $500 deposit down on a new Civic from Honda Red Deer Sales. He approached me to ask me how I liked mine, so I told him the whole history of our problem. Needless to say, he immediately called up the sales person and told him he was no longer interested in the Civic.
Due to the above events, I ended up buying a 2000 Camry CE back in November 2006, this is now our primary vehicle and a very impressive car at that! In fact so impressive that we are currently dealing with Red Deer Toyota on the purchase of a 2008 Camry SE for myself and a 2008 Corolla S for my wife. I will be trading off my 2000 Camry and the “death trap” on these two cars.
In closing, I would like to add that I have already contacted Honda Canada in regard to the above issues back in March of this year but did not hear back from anyone, this is a very disrespectful way to treat to a former loyal Honda owner.
Scott J. Gilchrist
#660 of 1262 Re: One persons 2006 Civic issue [i3eezenotch]
Sep 17, 2007 (8:15 pm)
The ABS on the Civic is definitely touchy over uneven pavement. I think it's operating correctly however. For me, my previous car was full-size and definitely didn't 'hop' as much.
Keep in mind the gas pedal is electronic. This should mean FASTER response than the traditional mechanical cable, but for some reason it does have some low-speed lag.
#661 of 1262 Re: 2007 Honda Complaint [jcwiddes]
Sep 17, 2007 (10:19 pm)
See my other post!!
#662 of 1262 Re: Galaxy Gray [slorenzen]
Sep 17, 2007 (10:45 pm)
How does your Civic handle in the snow?
#663 of 1262 Recalls announced
Sep 23, 2007 (8:22 am)
Today's News & Observer has an article on Recalls.
1. Honda is recalling 182,756 Civics to fix a wheel-bearing seal that might leak and cause the wheel to fall off. The recall covers 2006 and 2007 model-year Civic sedans and coupes. The affected models were manufactured March 24,2005 thru Feb 8,2007. Honda said it will notify owners by mail and replace damaged parts for free.
2.) Honda also is recalling 19,904 of its 2006 model-year Civic sedans and hybrids to repair a brake-light switch that might fail. Honda said it will notify owners beginning Sept 27.
Owners may contact Honda at 800-999-1009
Sep 25, 2007 (7:45 am)
Does anyone have a copy of the TSB for:
Engine - Rattle From R/H Vehicle Front On Bumps
I have this problem and the dealer dont know hot to fix it.
Sep 25, 2007 (8:41 am)
Ask your dealer to check service bulletin #06-060, I believe it was issued earlier this year. Honda sends all dealers service information so they have it. Once they find it it will clearly tell them which serial number cars are involved..the symptoms..the part numbers for the repair kit or parts...and exactly how to go about making the fix. It is all there for them if they care to check.
#666 of 1262 Re: TSB [targettuning]
Sep 25, 2007 (10:06 am)
I live outside the US (Dominican Republic) and here the dealer is the worst of the worst. I also have the wind noise issue and they said that it is a feature of the new design.
Imagine what I'm suffering.
Sep 26, 2007 (4:29 am)
Ok..now I will concede that what I am about to say may not be correct but I think that Honda issues service bulletins for dealers located "anywhere" their cars are sold and serviced. Where was your car built? If you have the window sticker that was originally on the car the final assembly location is noted. U.S. cars for instance are either built in Ohio or in Canada. The service bulletin I spoke of has been issued for cars built in both Ohio and Canada. Yours may, or may not, be subject to it. It sounds as though your dealer will be a problem (in addition to the real problem)and if that is the case Honda has a hotline phone # to call in order to present problems that the dealer is unable/unwilling to address. It should be in your owner information packet.
#668 of 1262 Problems with 2006 Civic Coupes
Sep 26, 2007 (2:18 pm)
I am looking at a 2006 Civic EX coupe to buy for my daughter, it has 40,000 miles and was made in the fall of 2005. Can someone tell me about the problem areas on the car? I have read about cars pulling to the right, sunvisors breaking, struts leaking and the wheel bearing recall.
Can someone tell me other recalls, TSB's and problem areas?Also what is the car worth? Thanks for the information.