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#483 of 1262 Re: 2006 honda civic-vibrating issue [dshesq]--Update on Failed Mount [dshe [kero1] [dshesq] [kiawah] [dshesq]
May 19, 2007 (8:59 am)
"Is it always this difficult to get warranty work done on your Honda?
I find this very strange because when my 2002 Civic EX coupe had the failed struts at 3 years and again a year later with the timing belt tensioner/water pump problem there was no question they were to be repaired by the dealership. I feel Honda knew this was coming because the 2002 was the second year of that model redo. I'm getting ready to buy a 2007 Civic EX coupe and I'm hoping that if this model has been out there since Sept. 2005 that this 2007 will not have any of the 2006 problems. If it does, this will be my last Honda as my 5 year old 1982 Accord had a failed rack and pinion steering seal. Cost me almost $1,000 to replace.
#484 of 1262 Re: 2006 honda civic-vibrating issue [dshesq]--Update on Failed Mount [dshe
May 20, 2007 (3:27 am)
It all depends on the dealerships in your area.
On Long Island, the dealerships (service departments) are far from friendly for the most part (I am sure there are a few good ones) and you really have to make a stink to get something fixed that they think is fine when you know it's not. I took me 4-5 visits and a call to Honda to get my mount replaced and the serpetine belt replaced (lug bug noise). I also have to bring down copies of the service bulletings which they said they never saw. I know their system has these TSB's cause mine problems were quite a while after honda issued the TSB's.
Either way, buy your car, enjoy it and most likely, some or all of the problems have been resolved.
If you have any doubts, buy something else. Nothing worse than buying a new car and already feeling worried about things.
#485 of 1262 Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic!
May 21, 2007 (8:54 am)
Ok.... I don't get what my Honda dealership is telling me and I want to know if it is true or not so someone please help me.
This is my first car I ever purchased, because I was never able to have my parents give me a car, I'm a 19 female and I think I'm being taken advantage of.
Ok.... I have 30,000 miles of my 2006 Honda Civic and they are already telling me my rotors have to replaced along with my brake pads. I understand that around 30,000 miles your brakes need to be change, I know that and I know how to do that. But my rotors, I didn't think that was right. Someone please tell me if this is correct or not. I need help before I pay someone to do this for me.
#486 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [chrissy_w87]
May 21, 2007 (10:16 am)
Depending on driving habits and local conditions, 30K sounds just about right for time to replace DISC PADS, not drums. Rear drums (if you have an LX) normally get replaced once for every 2 or 3 times you replace the DISC PADS. Drums pads last much longer and since they are in the rear of the car, they wear much less.
Honda rotors are known to warp very quickly. I have had many hondas and was advised by a long time mechanic that they tend to be thinner than other makes so heat warps them quicker.
Most likely, you would need a rotor resurface. If your steering wheel does not shake left to right while braking, you rotors are not warped. Normally when replacing disc pads, most places do a resurface of the lining so that the new brakes don't wear prematurely.
I hope this helps.
#487 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [chrissy_w87]
May 21, 2007 (11:02 am)
Chrissy, as a woman who has had this kind of thing happen a number of tmes, I say get another opinion. If there's another Honda dealer you can go to, or a mechanic you can trust, find someone else to give you information before going along with this.
#488 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [kero1]
May 21, 2007 (2:00 pm)
(I just realized I posted this as a reply to kero in error, as opposed to Chrissy, sorry )
You'd have to replace the rotors under 2 conditions, typically. If you let the disc pads wear down to the point where you had metal to metal contact (worn out pad grinds against rotor). You hear this by the grinding noise when applying brakes, and visually you can inspect the rotors to see if they are scored. Be sure to look on both sides of each rotor.
The second reason is if the rotors have warped. You notice this when you are applying the brakes, and you feel a pulsation in the brake pedal. This warping happens with heavy braking where the rotors get very hot.
I have heard of a number of situations where companies are just automatically replacing both, so I don't think it is necessarily a case of somone wanting to take advantage of you.
You might be able to have rotors re-surfaced, where they cut off some of the metal using a lathe to make it smooth and true. However, since the rotors don't cost all that much, it is usually just easier to replace them.
At 30K I would expect to replace the front pads, nothing would normally be needed on the rears as they do minimally work stopping the vehicle. You would not normally need front rotors, unless you have experienced the grinding or warping.
#489 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [kiawah]
May 22, 2007 (7:12 pm)
Holy Cow! I never realized how much money I was saving on brakes living here in the rural deep South. I've never had to replace a set of brake pads, shoes, rotors, drums or anything brake wise on a vehicle before the warranty ran out. As a matter of fact, I've never had brakes that didn't outlast at least one, if not two, sets of tires.
Chrissy, I encourage you by all means to take the advice you've already been given and get a second opinion.
#490 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [jefferyg]
May 23, 2007 (7:00 am)
I don't think living in the south has much to do with it......the previous posts are pretty much on target with my experience, altho most of it is Toyota and not Honda.
Many places now just replace the rotors rather than bother with turning them, since in their case, time is money. Since I do my own brake work, I typically have them turned. It's more bother and takes a bit longer, but i do it anyway.....
It is rare that a rotor needs to be replaced, if done properly turning them (actually done on a lathe) will extend their life for a very long time.
However, if you let the pads wear too far, you WILL damage the rotors and they will need to be replaced. So replacing the pads whenever you start hearing the squeal is very important (and cost effective!)
My 97 camry has 201,000+, my 93 had 198,000+ and I've only replaced the rotors once on each. They had been turned so many times they were past the minimum allowable thickness. On average, every other pad replacement got the rotors turned, but only if warped or badly glazed.
#491 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [chrissy_w87]
May 24, 2007 (5:08 pm)
I drove my Civic for almost 7 years (95,000 miles) before I ever replaced the original brake pads (front only, the rear ones were fine). I don't know if that's typical, but that's when my mechanics started bugging me about getting new ones. They should give you an estimate of how much the pads are worn (80%, for example). There was never an issue with my rotors.
You should definitely get a second or third opinion.
#492 of 1262 Re: Brake Problems on my 2006 Honda Civic! [bellagio]
May 25, 2007 (4:41 am)
Ah, but others may actually need to stop 100's of times or more every day in a city commute. Location..location...location. City? suburban? rural?
For the record 95 K miles on original pads isn't typical nor should your mechanics have had to "bug" you about replacement. Many states including mine have annual mechanical inspections and when the pads/shoes get within a certain point they MUST be replaced. But nonetheless I don't scrimp on things like brakes (cost: about $40 +/- for new pads) and mine last about 35K miles or so.