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#1210 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [victorcharlie]
Jan 29, 2010 (6:59 am)
As the owner of a 2006 EX sedan we have had our share of some of the problems discussed here on this forum, though not the most severe ones i.e. cracked engine blocks or the defective rear control arms (yet..as the car has only 26K miles) but some of the problems we did have (plus those other more serious problems we didn't experience) were carried over into the 2007 and even 2008 models given the degree to which they were still discussed here by owners of those models. Additionally, we suffered premature rear shock failure on our car that, as far as I could determine, was also a known fault on Civics as far back as 2003 with no correction by Honda (as in more quality control, or a change of the outside supplier of those parts) from those earlier cars to at least 2006. So, I do not give Honda good marks for being "on top" of known faults based on both our experiences and what has been commented on in this very forum. In fact I would go so far as to say Honda MAY be riding the crest of their former, and possibly well deserved, perception of superior quality while letting that quality slide. I remind you there are other good choices out there other than Honda and Toyota, especially now with their unintended acceleration problems. Those choices include the Hyundai Elantra which by all accounts both within the automotive press and actual owners are very good and reliable cars, possibly the Nissan Sentra, and....well I guess I can't name a smaller Ford, GM or Chrysler car that I would consider good so I guess it is up to you given your perameters of size, price, personal finances etc to sort through the others in the size class.
#1211 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [targettuning]
Jan 29, 2010 (7:29 am)
Well said Targettuning! My '06 EX has had most of the minor stuff mentioned in this forum, water pump, wheel bearings (rear) and some annoying interior rattles in cold weather BUT after free timely repair through recall at 80k miles this 5 speed runs like new with nothing but new tires, required fluid changes and front brake pads at 60k. Really great gas mileage, lots of fun to drive, I look forward to considering another one at the next major model change. Yes there are other worthy competitors in class but due drive each. If you like a fun sporty ride the Civic or Mazda 3 or Ford Focus might be for you. Price...consider Hyundai, a boring but now reliable value. The Corolla, when the brake issue is dealt also reliable boredom. And by boredom I merely mean uninspiring performance due to softer suspension and less precise steering based on my own experience and general agreement in the auto press.
#1212 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [targettuning]
Jan 29, 2010 (9:34 am)
The problem with the shocks goes back further than the 2003 model. I had a 2002 with that at 17,000 miles and timing belt tensioner/water pump at 23,000. My 1982 had failed rack and pinion steering seal at about 50,000 miles. This 2007 Civic EX has been fine, with just recalled things corrected even though no problem evident.
#1213 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [targettuning]
Jan 29, 2010 (10:00 am)
Thanks for the input. I own a 2001 Honda Civic LX and looked back at all the problems this year had. I am just nervous of getting another Honda since they seem to have obvious engineering flaws in their designs and never own up to them. I'm assuming if the problems have carried on into the '08s then it's likely the '10s will have the same problems. I've already seen some complaints on the '09s of the premature brake wear and a few cases of the premature tire wear. The 2010s are probably too new to have anyone report major problems yet. Really the only reason I've been looking at just Toyota and Honda is the supposed reliability and the great resale value. I've heard that the Elantra is a respectable car I'm just worried about the resale value later on. So far the Corolla is still coming out ahead in my opinion even though it could possibly be one of the most boring cars to own. I guess I will keep looking around, if anyone else has a newer ('09 or '10) civic and had any of the above mentioned problems let me know. Thanks for the help.
#1214 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [victorcharlie]
Feb 03, 2010 (7:27 am)
Yes, resale value is a valid issue but with Toyota's problems, and Honda's too (Fit recall) I wonder if the stellar resale value of both of these brands will continue. In other words how many Toyota owners will continue to be concerned about unintentened acceleration and decide to "dump" their cars in spite of the third attempt of Toyota to pin down and fix the problem? With Honda, that Fit problem isn't as severe or widespread but it is another crack in Hondas reputation facade. With Hyundai however, the brand in general is on the up-swing in quality, both perceived and real. The brand is winning some hard fought "cred" both in the automotive press and on the streets. So,given that, the resale values have, and probably will continue to rise as more people see that they don't make "junk". Finally, I see you own a 2001 Civic so quick turnover for a new model isn't something you probably do. By the time a car is 9 or 10 years old resale value (while still a concern) isn't critical.
#1215 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [targettuning]
Feb 03, 2010 (10:21 am)
Speaking of the problem with the Fit window, why would that just concern one Honda model? Why would they do one type of window mechanism in just one model? Why not use the same for all? Just because they haven't gotten any or not many complaints about it elsewhere, how can we be sure it won't happen in Civic? There was a man interviewed who had a 2002 Camry and in 2005 he experienced the sudden acceleration problem. They're just recalling new year models. I wouldn't touch a Toyota now.
#1216 of 1262 Re: Are the 2010 Civics any good? [kathyc1]
Mar 14, 2010 (4:33 pm)
my 08 civic power windows malfunctioned as the fit. Window on passenger side would not close-I had to tape it shut w saran wrap, as that was all on hand. It worked-the power to the window-the next day.
#1217 of 1262 2007 Civic Engine Failure
Mar 19, 2010 (6:37 am)
The engine in my Civic (~65,000km) failed unexpectedly this week while my daughter was driving it on the highway. There was absolutely no warning, no lights, no bells no whistles...nothing, just one dead Honda.
I had the car towed to a Honda dealer for diagnosis. After 3 days of radio silence they finally related to me there is serious engine damage and that Honda Canada will cover replacement of the short block but that they won't pay for damage caused by the engine being run after coolant loss. Coolant loss?
It wasn't until I started to do some research that I found a reference to Honda TSB 08-044 "Engine Overheats or Leaks Coolant" that details exactly the condition that my car experienced.
Needless to say that it is not in Honda's best interests for this information to become widely known and I'm curious why they have not yet issued a recall notice to deal with this catastrophic problem.
#1218 of 1262 Re: 2007 Civic Engine Failure [rnd121]
Mar 19, 2010 (7:45 am)
Sorry about your problem... but two questions... Didn't you have some warning on your temp gauge? If there was absolutely no warning, didn't some other system fail?
#1219 of 1262 Re: 2007 Civic Engine Failure [rnd121]
Mar 19, 2010 (9:23 am)
Sorry to hear of your situation. The same thing happened to my 2006 Civic. It only had 45,000 miles. It started like this:
In the summer of '09 my a/c suddenly stopped blowing cold air. I took it to my dealership and they found that there was no coolant whatsoever. They filled it up and said that should do it. One week later same thing happened. Radiator was bone dry and my temp gauge was maxed. Again, I took it to the dealership and they promptly notified me of a cracked block-and I would have to pay for it. After looking on the net, I stumbled across this site, found the TSB referring to cracked blocks and leaking coolant and took it to my dealership. Sure enough, they took care of everything at no cost.
My dealership's service department was great. The line that produced these faulty blocks-not so great.
In this case, with a cracked block, the coolant will escape very very fast. You won't realize how hot the engine is til' it's too late.
Your Honda Service Department should cover the whole repair.