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Replying to: nealm (Sep 20, 2008 4:58 am) Just trying to pass-on some info. |
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Replying to: craigblitz (Sep 10, 2008 6:19 am) |
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Replying to: 94accord_lover (Sep 18, 2008 5:40 pm) |
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My 2007 Civic EX coupe is less than 2 years old. This summer, the steering wheel began vibrating when I applied the brakes at highway speeds. I took it to the dealer and the diagnosis was warped rotors. I couldn't believe this could happen to a virtually brand-new car at only 27,000 miles. (My last Honda didn't have ANY braking issues until 80,000 miles or so. Same commute, same driving style.) The service rep told me this was "normal wear and tear" and rotor resurfacing wouldn't be covered by warranty. They finally paid for it after I requested to talk with the manager (the service rep did everything possible to stall me and used every excuse in the book not to have me talk with him -- so disappointing.) I like the Civic, but I just don't trust this car the way I trusted my previous Honda. This is yet another problem that has popped up in two years of ownership. Not happy at all.
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Replying to: bellagio (Oct 04, 2008 1:54 pm) Good luck
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Replying to: jonesbb630 (Oct 04, 2008 2:58 pm)
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Replying to: nealm (Oct 05, 2008 3:01 pm) If I lived in USA, I would most likely try Walmart. Good luck |
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Replying to: bellagio (Oct 04, 2008 1:54 pm) To point out the issue with your car, bellagio, it's typical for the Honda rotors under more than gentle usage to warp. Sure, it could be because you were braking hard and drove through a puddle which caused the warpage, but do you really want to have to be that careful with your brakes? It's a car, not fine dishware! When I had this problem on my Civic, I was a little slow in learning. Turning after turning and even replacing the rotors with another pair from Honda I slowly learned that the quality was to blame. They weren't engineered to last past 30,000 miles. What did I do? I went to www.tirerack.com and bought the Brembo branded OEM replacement rotor/disc. Never had another problem with warpage, for 6 years until the rotors were used up and had to be replaced. I also replaced the Honda pads with Porterfield's R4-S pad as well. Finally more bite, no more squeaking, and much faster stopping. But that's another post in itself. One other thing that about warpage people ignore. They think it is automatically time to turn the rotors. What I have found is that (research google as well, if you don't believe me) most vibration, "warpage" comes from a brake pad that doesn't have enough friction. Small amounts of the pad get left behind on the rotor's surface and this causes the vibration. If a runout dial is used, it would indicate that warpage has occured, but really what they're measuring is the pad debris burned into the rotor's face. Solution? Upgrade to a higher friction pad and it will clean the rotor off. That's how I got 6 years out of that set of Brembo oem rotors and Porterfield's R4-S pad. Yes I know it's a lengthy explanation but needed to help a fellow Honda owner understand what's happening. My advice: Don't bother with the Honda rotors/pads again, seriously. You'll waste time and money, not to mention frustration when it this warpage happens again. Just replace with Brembo's rotors (same size as stock, not a big upgrade) and you'll be happy again. For less money too! |
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Replying to: mark19 (Oct 06, 2008 7:51 am)
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Replying to: mark19 (Oct 06, 2008 7:51 am) Just wanted to thank you for your comprehensive explanation and specific recommendations for dealing with rotors/pads. Bellagio has started an enlightening thread and you have provided valuable info. At 42K my brakes seem fine (no vibes, clean stops) but will be due for a check this month. If they are near the end, I will follow your advice and go aftermarket. I will try to do some research on the subject and share what I come up with, but so far your recommendation and JonesBB(thanks Jones!) are useful starting points. I rarely get this much out of my brakes except for a 1995 Maxima that had 95K fronts before a pad change (really!).
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