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Re: honda quality? [nealm] by thegraduate
Sep 20, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: nealm (Sep 20, 2008 4:58 am)

Typically a car is classified as a lemon if the problem can't be fixed after multiple tries; generally, anyway.
 
Just trying to pass-on some info.
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Re: [craigblitz] by th78
Sep 22, 2008 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: craigblitz (Sep 10, 2008 6:19 am)

I too had the same problem .The first time honda replaced my tires after 3 tire places gave them different reasons.the second time they only replaced one tire and they ddidnt even put the same kind of tire back on the car
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Re: New Tires [94accord_lover] by f1guy
Sep 25, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: 94accord_lover (Sep 18, 2008 5:40 pm)

I've got about 10K on Continental ContiExtremeContact. Great tires. Billed as Super High Performance All Season. Grip really well on tight, twisty roads on dry and wet pavement. Also did well the one time I had them in snow. Slightly lower profile than stock, makes my Coupe look lowered. Reasonably priced and cool lookin'. I like 'em.
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Warped rotors at 27,000 miles by bellagio
Oct 04, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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My 2007 Civic EX coupe is less than 2 years old. This summer, the steering wheel began vibrating when I applied the brakes at highway speeds. I took it to the dealer and the diagnosis was warped rotors.
 
I couldn't believe this could happen to a virtually brand-new car at only 27,000 miles. (My last Honda didn't have ANY braking issues until 80,000 miles or so. Same commute, same driving style.)
 
The service rep told me this was "normal wear and tear" and rotor resurfacing wouldn't be covered by warranty. They finally paid for it after I requested to talk with the manager (the service rep did everything possible to stall me and used every excuse in the book not to have me talk with him -- so disappointing.)
 
I like the Civic, but I just don't trust this car the way I trusted my previous Honda. This is yet another problem that has popped up in two years of ownership. Not happy at all.
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [bellagio] by jonesbb630
Oct 04, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: bellagio (Oct 04, 2008 1:54 pm)

I have owned 14 Hondas from civics, integras, EL, accords, to crv's. Maybe 2 of them had no problem with rotors before 30.000. Basically, when your rotors were hot, you must have driven in a cold water puddle or did hard braking which can result in warping when rotor overheats. To me Honda rotors are one of their weakness. But this is the only thing that carrie's over as a problem from one Honda to another almost like a virus. As long as you can get them replaced under warranty, it's fine. The minute they won't cover this as warranty, go buy a good set of aftermarket performance rotors. To me worth every penny as these are easier on brake pads and give you better braking. If you get them on sale, they will cost you about the same as original honda crapy rotors.
 
Good luck
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [jonesbb630] by nealm
Oct 05, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: jonesbb630 (Oct 04, 2008 2:58 pm)

Thanks for that info. Can you recommend a specific aftermarket product? I have 45 K with no problems but expect to need brake work for my '06 Civic soon.
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [nealm] by jonesbb630
Oct 05, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: nealm (Oct 05, 2008 3:01 pm)

I live in Canada. So, i went and bought Canadian Tire performance rotors. They are cheap when on sale, and are twice the original honda crapy rotor. Sale usually says buy one and get the second half price. One thing about them, if they ever warp, you can't turn them. I have yet to see one warp. Then again, I don't keep my cars long enough to seeit I guess.
 
If I lived in USA, I would most likely try Walmart.
 
Good luck
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [bellagio] by mark19
Oct 06, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: bellagio (Oct 04, 2008 1:54 pm)

The reason that Honda has ignored you is because it's a known problem and they don't want to acknowledge that they went cheaper on the rotors. Who would admit that kind of liability? They did admit it in the 90's on the Civic. TSB (technical service bulletin was issued) It said that the rotors weren't manufactured "true" and even and had to be turned right out of the box, brand new! But your problem is over time not in the beginning. Just mentioning that's the only time Honda admitted to having a problem.
 
To point out the issue with your car, bellagio, it's typical for the Honda rotors under more than gentle usage to warp. Sure, it could be because you were braking hard and drove through a puddle which caused the warpage, but do you really want to have to be that careful with your brakes? It's a car, not fine dishware!
 
When I had this problem on my Civic, I was a little slow in learning. Turning after turning and even replacing the rotors with another pair from Honda I slowly learned that the quality was to blame. They weren't engineered to last past 30,000 miles. What did I do? I went to www.tirerack.com and bought the Brembo branded OEM replacement rotor/disc. Never had another problem with warpage, for 6 years until the rotors were used up and had to be replaced.
 
I also replaced the Honda pads with Porterfield's R4-S pad as well. Finally more bite, no more squeaking, and much faster stopping. But that's another post in itself.
 
One other thing that about warpage people ignore. They think it is automatically time to turn the rotors. What I have found is that (research google as well, if you don't believe me) most vibration, "warpage" comes from a brake pad that doesn't have enough friction. Small amounts of the pad get left behind on the rotor's surface and this causes the vibration. If a runout dial is used, it would indicate that warpage has occured, but really what they're measuring is the pad debris burned into the rotor's face. Solution? Upgrade to a higher friction pad and it will clean the rotor off. That's how I got 6 years out of that set of Brembo oem rotors and Porterfield's R4-S pad.
 
Yes I know it's a lengthy explanation but needed to help a fellow Honda owner understand what's happening.
 
My advice: Don't bother with the Honda rotors/pads again, seriously. You'll waste time and money, not to mention frustration when it this warpage happens again. Just replace with Brembo's rotors (same size as stock, not a big upgrade) and you'll be happy again. For less money too!
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [mark19] by kathyc1
Oct 06, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: mark19 (Oct 06, 2008 7:51 am)

This is all very interesting and frightening. I'm a woman and know nothing about cars and how they work. How do you know when to replace the rotors, or will you know when you can't stop the car? Also, is it possible to buy better rotors and then have someone else put them on, say at a auto repair shop? How about a tire store that also does maintenance work?
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Re: Warped rotors at 27,000 miles [mark19] by nealm
Oct 06, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: mark19 (Oct 06, 2008 7:51 am)

Hey Mark,
Just wanted to thank you for your comprehensive explanation and specific recommendations for dealing with rotors/pads. Bellagio has started an enlightening thread and you have provided valuable info. At 42K my brakes seem fine (no vibes, clean stops) but will be due for a check this month. If they are near the end, I will follow your advice and go aftermarket. I will try to do some research on the subject and share what I come up with, but so far your recommendation and JonesBB(thanks Jones!) are useful starting points. I rarely get this much out of my brakes except for a 1995 Maxima that had 95K fronts before a pad change (really!).

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