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#81 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [inabox]
Nov 12, 2011 (9:40 am)
I realize this post was a while ago..wondering what came of your problem…I have the following : I have a 2008 XB I am having the same problem with oil consumption …the oil light barley flickered once and luckily I checked the oil and it was 3 quarts low! I can't believe this! I have over 2 years of payments left on this car! This is the worse problem I have had but not the first …last year the air bag harness went bad but was covered under the warranty ..last month the electronic steering went bad but was not and it cost me $750!!! This car truly is a piece of junk and in light of this I will never buy another Toyota product again. This was my second toyota my first was a corolla which lasted 10 years with zero problems and is probably still running somewhere…I sold it as I wanted a new car …big mistake! Everyone having these problems needs to complain about this so maybe they will be recalled and not a total loss…cause I for one cannot afford to just put a new engine in or buy a new car! Please call your Toyota/Scion headquarters to report these problems 1-866-707-2466
#82 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [inabox]
Nov 21, 2011 (4:06 pm)
I also have a 2008 xB, 80K miles . My oil light is going on now if I don't check every 1500 miles. It's a nightmare. I'll never buy a Scion again.
#83 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [dvlv2012]
Nov 21, 2011 (5:36 pm)
Please call the number in my previous post to complain..if everyone does hopefully it will make a difference.
#84 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [isiso11]
Nov 30, 2011 (2:53 pm)
Toyota released a TSB for oil consumption on Nov 11, 2011, but it only covers toyota models.
Hopefully they do the right thing and include Scions which use the same 4cyl 2AZ-FE motor.
Here's a summary of the TSB (notice they loosened their acceptable standard for oil usage from 1qt/600miles to 1qt/1200miles; still a lot IMO, but hopefully enough to satisfy the owners of cars with excessive oil consumption):
T-SB-0094-11 on Nov 11th, 2011:
"Some 2006 – 2011 model year vehicles equipped with the 2AZ-FE engine may exhibit engine oil consumption. The piston assembly has been changed to minimize oil consumption. Use the following repair procedure to address this condition."
YEAR(S) MODEL(S) ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
2007 – 2011 Camry HV, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): BB3EK, BB46K
2007 – 2009 Camry, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): BE46K
2009 Corolla, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): BE40E
2009 Matrix, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): GE40E, KE40E, LE40E
2006 – 2008 RAV4, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): BD31V, BD32V, BD33V, BD34V, BD35V, ZD31V, ZD32V, ZD33V, ZD34V, ZD35V
2007 – 2008 Solara, Engine(s): 2AZ, VDS(s): CE30P
In some cases, a P030# (cylinder # misfire detected) DTC may also be set as a result of oil consumption.
Perform an oil consumption test to determine the consumption rate.
1. Confirm the engine oil level is full.
2. Mark the oil dipstick to indicate the current level.
3. Replace the oil dipstick.
4. Mark the oil dipstick, oil drain plug, and oil fill cap to prevent/indicate tampering during the test.
Use tape, sealer, cable ties, or equivalent to mark the oil dipstick, oil drain plug, and oil fill cap.
5. Advise the customer to drive the vehicle normally for 1,200 miles and return for inspection.
6. Determine the quantity of oil that was consumed in 1,200 miles.
Was the oil level more than 1 quart low after 1,200 miles of normal driving?
YES — Go to the Repair Procedure.
NO — This TSB does NOT apply. Warranty guideline for acceptable oil consumption is 1 quart per 1,200 miles of operation. No warranty claim should be filed.
#85 of 119 Oil consumption xB2 2008
Dec 15, 2011 (7:33 pm)
I will call the numbers listed above, but won't hold my breath.
My 2008 xB uses about 1 qt. every 2500 miles and it has been getting worse! If Toyota won't fix this problem owners of the cars affected will take a large hit when trying to sell.
Stay away from the cars listed in the above TSB and all Scion xb's second generation 2.4 engine.
Still haven't received my RECALL letter about the bad ignition coils!
#86 of 119 Re: Oil consumption xB2 2008 [just4fun2]
Dec 15, 2011 (9:39 pm)
My XB was in the shop at Toyota when they were trying to make sure it was not leaking oil....when they found that it was not leaking obviously burning it....they told me to call Scion headquarters. I called to tell them of all my problems with this car which started with an airbag problem (was under warranty at time) but would have cost $1,200), then the electronic steering went ($750) , then oil light went on and had next to no oil in it 1,000 miles before next oil change was due! While I was on the phone with Scion they told me of the ignition coil recall so Toyota service department fixed it while my car was still there...that was 3 weeks ago...but I did finally receive that recall letter yesterday 12-14-11. Guess I was one of the first to have that fixed. But that is peanut's next to this oil burning issue.....Toyota made me drive 1,000 miles then measured my oil ...they said it was burning half a quart about every 1,000 miles but said to call scion back to see if they would fix it under this good will thing the repair is 2,700 and basically includes rebuilding the engine! But guess what scion said it is not considered excessive!!! And they will not fix it! I am mortified! How can they sell these cars with out warning people that they will be burning oil at a certain point...it is completely preposterous!!! This is 2011 and it is not normal for new cars to burn oil! So we are now stuck checking oil every week and adding about 2 and a half quarts every 5,000 miles! Give me a freaken break! I cannot believe this and this means war to me! Toyota used to be a great company and make a great car but ...but NO more! I have over 2 years worth of payments on this car! Please call them and voice your complains for as long as it takes if everyone comes forward maybe something will be done! You can also call your local congressmens office , the attorney general, and consumer affairs.....we really need to fight this! I am not rich and cant afford to just run out and buy another car! Shame on Toyota...I will never but another one!
#87 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [hbgti1]
Dec 16, 2011 (4:47 am)
1 quart of oil per 1,200 miles is insane and not normal!!!!!!!!!! This is 2011 for god sakes...how the hell can they get away with this utter bullshit! Shame on Toyota they have went totally down hill...I will never buy another one! My dad still has his 1979 Ford van with 400,000 miles on it and it does not burn that much oil ! Everyone with this problem needs to come forward and complain...make some calls....they cant ignore all of us. Its only a matter of time before someone forgets to add the oil every 1,200and blows their engine ! rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
#88 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [mrs2010]
Dec 16, 2011 (4:55 am)
So what happened with the law suite ??....I am having this problem now and would like to battle Toyota! Cars should not burn oil in this day and age ! Toyota is on CRACK! I am furious!
#89 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [isiso11]
Jan 03, 2012 (8:07 pm)
I researched the oil consumption on the Internet further and found that Scion did release a TSB at the same time as Toyota. Scion TSB #SB002411 follows exactly word for word as the Toyota TSB (a few posts back) except it list the following Scion models: 07-09 TC and 08-09 xB.
If you Google "Toyota 2az oil consumption" you'll find several forums (some with 100's of posts) that discuss this issue. Unfortunately, from what I've gleaned from reading through all the posts, Toyota/Scion is sticking to their standard of 1quart burned/1200 miles within their 5yr/60k mile warranty period. Very few will hit this rate below 60k; it seems as though a majority of the higher oil burning engines are over 80k. Maybe if Toyota/Scion gets more pressure it will extend the coverage of this TSB to 7yr/100k (this sounds more fair to me).
I have about 8 months left until my warranty expires, so I'll be keeping a close eye on my dipstick. My current rate of oil consumption is 1qt/2000mi.
Hope this helps someone out there. Post any add'l info if found. Thanks
#90 of 119 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [hbgti1]
Jan 14, 2012 (9:12 am)
My 2008 scion XB has 80k and I first noticed the problem around 70k. My solution has been to get my oil changed every 3,000 so I don't have to worry too much about it although I do check the oil every 300 miles another solution I was thinking of was to switch to a heavier oil instead of the recommended 0-20/5-20 I was thinking of switching to 5-30 at my next oil change and to see if that makes a difference. I still say Toyota should do something about this and as you say as more people get higher in miles and come out with this problem....maybe they will be forced to do something! My car also does not get as good gas mileage as it is supposed to. Shame on Toyota this will be my last! Switching to Hyundai they have much better warranties.