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#70 of 125 Re: 2008 Scion XB MAJOR ENGINE PROBLEM [dukedude]
May 15, 2010 (8:56 pm)
I have started a class action law suite against Toyota Corp. & Scion Corp. Because all of there cars consume oil, They know about it and when the consumer asks the question they say, "look in your service manual" and there it is in black and white "this car consumes oil' They recommend that you check your oil every time you fill your car up with gas. My car is a 2008 Toyota Scion XB, with 47000 miles on it now and it is consumming about 3 quarts every 5000 miles and the Toyota corp says " it's with in our standards" Which doesn't make any sence in 2010. Have you check your oil lately? You should check it every time you fill your car with gas.
Keep in touch with me, I'll add your complaint to the rest of them. Also check your service manual under engine oil consumption! See what it says, Unfortunatly its not good and its not right. Write your congressman office and complain to them also write a letter to your Attorney Generals office in your state. My letter just went out about two weeks ago. They will responed!
#71 of 125 Re: 2008 Scion XB MAJOR ENGINE PROBLEM [slamon]
May 15, 2010 (9:00 pm)
I have started a class action law suite against Toyota Corp. & Scion Corp. Because all of there cars consume oil, They know about it and when the consumer asks the question they say, "look in your service manual" and there it is in black and white "this car consumes oil' They recommend that you check your oil every time you fill your car up with gas. My car is a 2008 Toyota Scion XB, with 47000 miles on it now and it is consumming about 3 quarts every 5000 miles and the Toyota corp says " it's with in our standards" Which doesn't make any sence in 2010. Have you checked your Oil lately ?
Contact your local States congressman, all of them! Also write your complaint to your states Attorney General, Lets get the word out about these engine issues, I'll never buy another Toyota or Scion for that matter!
#72 of 125 Scion difficult to start today, then ran fine
Jun 12, 2010 (9:23 pm)
I am slightly worried. My 2005 Scion with 160,000 miles on it, didn't start right up as usual today. It coughed sputtered engaged, tried, then died. Started fine on the second crank, however, and ran fine. I just made a quarter mile trip to the store, then back. And yikes, it had heated up badly. Radiator water level fine.
I'm worried. Any ideas? I'm out of dough. Just had the windshield replaced for $199 cash and the brakes done, badly I might add, at a cheapo shop I shouldnt have used. So I'm out of cash, dead broke and I don't want a dead Scion that's for sure, because I need it to live (get to store, do my job, etc).
Thoughts on the matter, mechanics out there? I read on the list somewhere, ethanol might be to blame. Well, when they upped the percentage sure did lower my mileage by about two to three mpg. Darn it. But I never have had starting problems ever before. I had it to a shop month and a half ago, to change tran fluid, check everything out. He told me the switch is stuck in the window, the open close the window switch, and he was supposed to order the replacement part but hasn't. Maybe it's draining the battery. But it sounded more like the engine was coughing, not getting enough air or gas, straining, made some wierd little cut short sucking sounds, too. Didn't like hearing that. If I'm driving and hear bad car engine sounds, i turn up the radio, but I hadn't gotten out of the garage yet.
#73 of 125 Re: Engine Noise [ashcarr]
Jun 12, 2010 (9:30 pm)
I have had that sound periodically too, ever since I got the scion. I have no idea what that's about. I even recorded it once. Doesn't seem to have affected the running of the car, since mine now has 160k miles on it, but it still does it, not that often but usually in reverse. Someone else told me that's normal when the engine isn't warm, or to use lower number engine oil. But, well, I got used to the sound and try to ignore it best I can, when it happens. Nothing bad has happened because of it, in all these years I have driven mine to death. Not that I know of anyhow.
#74 of 125 Re: Scion difficult to start today, then ran fine [sciontrapper]
Jun 13, 2010 (6:52 am)
With 160,000 miles, have you ever changed your thermostat? Don't fool with it, install a new thermostat, Start it in your driveway and carefully watch your temperature gauge. If it gets close to "HOT" cut-off the engine. Aluminum block engines can't stand very much extended temperature. David
#75 of 125 Re: Scion difficult to start today, then ran fine [hondadave7]
Jun 18, 2010 (6:57 pm)
I agree. Replace the thermostat asap. It's a cheap fix. My 05 has 103k on it with zero issues although my daughter now drives it only 2k a year now. I put 35k/yr on it the 1st 2 years before I found a carpool. One of the best cars I ever owned.
#76 of 125 Re: David [debating]
Mar 26, 2011 (8:41 am)
I know that this is a dead post.. but I could not HELP but correct some inaccuracies!! If you are not correctly informed on what is wrong with your car, then you have no business commenting on it. The 1.5l motor in the early xb's is a variable valve timing motor - like what honda and toyota have been using for many many years. For Toyota is is VVT-i, Honda it is VTEC. Domestic manufacturers are only just now manufacturing 4 cylinders with this technology.
Basically, the timing is variable, and changes - its dependent on the car's oil pressure. Its ingenious and sounds complicated but works relatively simply. The oil pressure switch communicates the pressure to the variable timing gear (your failed part, in this case) and that gear adjusts the timing for the best performance and/or fuel economy. Its amazing!
I bought a used 06 scion xb with 40 k miles and had this VVT-i gear fail on me as well. It is a common problem on SOME early - mid 2000 model toyota 4cylinders, and normally fails when the vehicle is within its powertrain warranty coverage. The problem lies when someone ignores their check engine light, or takes it to an inferior mechanic who replaces the wrong parts (like ignition coils? wtf? never had one of those fail on these cars..) and the problem continues, unheeded until it is past warranty coverage. Mine was covered free of charge, on a saturday, by my local 'stealership'.
Even if you are past your warranty coverage, it is NOT a HUGE job. This car is pretty easy to work on. The VVT-i gear is just one of the timing chain gears. The side cover comes off, you change the gear, (i think it may be on the end of the camshaft?) maintain correct timing, put it back together. voila. Book labor time is 4.8 hours. I have seen much worse cars...
Every car has a common problem, a slight weakness from factory, and this is the only one I have found on this car so far, It may seem dramatic to some - but trust me, i have seen FAR, FAR worse... I love this car. It is an economy car, sure, but i love, love, LOVE it.. and it has served me very well. It isn't for everyone, though!
(...I have also personally seen some valve timing issues on the early model honda elements as well...)
Another note, since I have seen a few other people mentioning coils.. DO YOUR SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE!!!!!!!!! This car needs the spark plugs changed every 30k miles. It is factory equipped with copper resistor plugs and they do not last very long. Do not, by any means, EVER, replace the plugs with platinum or iridium instead. The ignition system is designed to run on a resistor. Your car will run rougher and get less gas mileage with a different composition plug. Also, the stock plug is an NGK v-power copper. I highly recommend!!!
- your friendly, informative, Automotive Service Adviser,
#77 of 125 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [mrs2010]
Aug 09, 2011 (12:03 pm)
I am the owner of a 2008 Scion XB.. I am experiencing oil consumption. I took the vehicle to the dealership and they are telling me that because I didn't get oil changes done thru them .. they can't help me with the problem. My vehicle was brand new when I purchased it and I have read thru al the paperwork and there is nothing in the papers that state oil changes have to be done thru the dealership.. They want $5900.00 to replace the short block in car.. How can this fair.. Why doesn't toyota stand behind their vehicles... Maybe a recall since they know this is an issue with these cars... Anyone else have same problem?
#78 of 125 Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [inabox]
Aug 09, 2011 (8:27 pm)
It seem like everyone has the same issue of Oil Consumption. I contacted my local Senitor John Kerry, last year. Via by letter, one of his pions called me and said they were going to open up a Federal Investagation on Oil Consumption... Well I guess that never happened is what I found out resently. This is a Federal concern, so I'm going to ask you to call and wright your local senitors and ask them to open up a federal investagation on Oil Consumption! It's not right that we all have to take such serious losses, we took a full loss on our Brand new 2008 Scion XB, biggest piece of crap I have ever bought! Since getting rid of it I have boughten two Chevy van I'm pleased with. I would also contact a local mechanic to do the engine job and buy a used block since they all use oil! That would be the way I would deal with the fix. After the fix get rid of it, trade it sell it what ever! Good luck & please keep me informed, Matthew
#79 of 125 Re: 2008 Scion XB MAJOR ENGINE PROBLEM [mrs2010]
Nov 12, 2011 (8:07 am)
I have a 2008 XB I am having the same problem with oil consumption …the oil light barley flickered once and luckily I checked the oil and it was 3 quarts low! I can't believe this! I have over 2 years of payments left on this car! This is the worse problem I have had but not the first …last year the air bag harness went bad but was covered under the warranty ..last month the electronic steering went bad but was not and it cost me $750!!! This car truly is a piece of junk and in light of this I will never buy another Toyota product again. This was my second toyota my first was a corolla which lasted 10 years with zero problems and is probably still running somewhere…I sold it as I wanted a new car …big mistake! Everyone having these problems needs to complain about this so maybe they will be recalled and not a total loss…cause I for one cannot afford to just put a new engine in or buy a new car! Please call your Toyota/Scion headquarters to report these problems 1-866-707-2466