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#103 of 125 Re: Scion Xb engine problem, oil consumption and my blown engine!!! [scion08usesoil]
Dec 05, 2012 (5:09 am)
It is completely preposterous and unacceptable! I have been waiting for more people to start coming forward with this in the hopes that maybe there would be a recall. Back a little before 70,000 miles they had been testing and measuring my oil but they say that the consumption was within normal range 1 quart per 1200 miles Which I still believe to be ridiculous. It does state in the owners manual that these cars will consume oil! I never read that until later I really feel it is Toyota's responsibility to let the customer know that with these cars you will need to check your oil! No one would think that they would need to check the oil that regularly if they got regular oil changes like myself I get oil changes every 3000 to 5000 miles religiously. When I first noticed that my car had consumed almost all of its oil It was over 2000 miles before I was even due for my next oil change! My car is just almost got 100,000 miles. When I read your post I became very worried and I called the scion headquarters I already have a case with them but it's kind of been closed cause that was over year ago and now they are telling me that my car is so far out of warranty that they really wouldn't do anything if anything happened to my car I told them about your case and I said that I was very worried that the same thing was going to happen to me eventually! Since the problem seems to be with the 2008 mainly and since I put a lot of miles on and obviously so do you I think more more people will be coming out with this problem so it may just take a while but I plan on keeping on top of them about this! I also want to find out why they would even sell a car like this without informing the customer of the oil burning problem the whole thing is preposterous and I am completely infuriated and will do whatever it takes to fight them. Could you tell me a little more about your situation ?how did you first notice that your engine was blown what was your car doing leading up to that? Had you been checking the oil? Did you realize that It had the oil burning problem? At any point with your dipstick completely dry? My dealership only recommends getting the oil changed every 5000 miles every time I get my oil changed the sticker for the next time is 5000 miles away I usually take it upon myself to take it in around 3000 miles just because I worried because I know it has this problem. But my friend told me that is silly I should go at 5000 because since I have to add so Much oil of my Own by the time I get there by car is practically filled with fresh oil again so I probably could at least wait till the 5000.
#104 of 125 Re: Scion Xb engine problem, oil consumption and my blown engine!!! [isiso11]
Dec 11, 2012 (6:23 am)
lisis, thank you for your comments. My car never had a symptom until I heard a tapping when I would let off the accelerator. This was hard to hear at first but was persisitantly there, so I called my friend at the dealership and arranged to bring it in (I drove while actually hearing the issue for 2days tops) I have, until now hardly ever checked the oil because i thought that I was bringing it often enough for a NEWER CAR--usually late, sometimes 5-8000 miles btwn changes--but since I never had the luxury of having a new car, I thought It was reasonable to not need to check oil unless dealer told me I was low or it was older and burning it/leaking it like many of my past older cars.
Do you know that this is only 08 issue or what? I want to buy new engine or a used XB (love to buy a new one/lease it but not sure if i can afford a payment now) Am I crazy to buy another one? I love my poor car!! This issue is very painful and worse because my best friend is the service manager of the dealership where I bought my 08 new! Well I guess you read my last post, won't bore u....thx, tony
#105 of 125 Re: Scion Xb engine problem, oil consumption and my blown engine!!! [scion08usesoil]
Dec 13, 2012 (3:09 am)
I sympathize with you and I also agree that one wouldn't expect to have to check the oil when you buy a brand-new car. But it does stay in the owners manual That these cars will burn oil but not everybody reads their owners manual ...I know I didn't until later. I get my oil changed every 3 to 5000 miles religiously I always have.But the thing that bothered me about your case is why didn't who ever changed your oil ever mention to you that it was extremely low... which it must have been at some point. It actually must've been almost empty at some point for your Engine to get that bad. Did you get it changed at the dealership? No offense but I do think it is crazy that you would buy another one. I love my car too it is a great car at a small car price with the space of an SUV, plus it is adorable. Not only would I not buy another scion XB I would not buy by another Toyota product period After this experience! Shame on Toyota for selling a car with these issues and not warning the customer when they buy it that they better check they're oil every week! I don't know who you complained too exactly so far but be sure to call the main Scion headquarters about this. I really feel if more people keep coming forward with this problem in this model of car maybe eventually they will recall it for an engine problem. Good luck to you. Dawn
#106 of 125 2008 xB oil burning
Dec 13, 2012 (6:20 am)
I'm the original owner of an 08 xB. It now has over 70k miles, and I just noticed it too is burning oil. The other night, I noticed the oil warning light blinking when I braked. I stopped to check the oil level and saw the dipstick was dry. I added one quart of oil and the level seemed okay. I got the oil changed the next day (it was due since it was 5k miles since the last one). I will monitor my oil level weekly from now on.
I also started noticing a strong exhaust smell coming my floor heater vents when I use the heater in the winter about a year ago when the car had about 55k or so miles on it. There would be no smell when I switched to dash vent or defroster, but the smell would be very noticeable when I run the floor vents. And it would be much worse at the higher temperature setting on the thermostat. If I run cool air it wouldn't be as bad.
I am wondering if these two symptoms are linked? Could I have some kind of valve cover gasket leak or something or is it much worse?
#107 of 125 Re: 2008 xB oil burning [dave594]
Dec 13, 2012 (8:02 am)
Dave, that is exactly how it started for me I don't know if you saw any of my previous posts . At about 70,000 miles oil light flickered and then I noticed there was no oil on the dipstick! Please call your Scion headquarters to complain about this problem the more people to come forward the more likely that maybe they will actually do something about it! It's ridiculous that these cars would burn oil like this. As far as your other problem I haven't really noticed that But right now my heater makes A loud sound like something is wrong with the blower when I turn the heat up high once in a while I do notice a gas smell though but I'm not sure if that's related to that at all. They say they won't do anything about that Oil burning problem because it's within the normal range which if you look in your owners manual it does talk about that but still I think it's ridiculous that they don't warn you of that when you buy these cars that you need to check your oil regularly or you will blow your engine! Dawn
#108 of 125 Re: 2008 xB oil burning [dave594]
Dec 13, 2012 (8:06 am)
Here's The number to Scion headquarters please please please call and complain about this problem again the more people to come forward maybe these cars will eventually be recalled.1 (866) 707-2466
#109 of 125 Stop using 5w- 20 weight oil
Dec 16, 2012 (7:17 am)
These engines are 1. either set up with piston, ring and cylinder wall clearances too great.
or 2. The valve guide seals are of a faulty design or material and letting oil leak by.
Use 15w-40 motor oil. I have an xB and have been using 15w-40 since it was new. I change every 3000-3500. The oil has never been low.
Just do it one(1) time, see if oil consumption slows or stops. Toyota doesn't own the car, it's
not their responsibility.
Make your life better!
#110 of 125 20 weight oil
Dec 16, 2012 (7:00 pm)
The problem is with the 20 weight oil. This is a trick the manufacturers have thought up to bump up their fleep mpg average to meet CAFE standards. Lighter weight oil gives the cars slightly better mpg due to less friction, but are they really good for the engine? I'd rather put 30 weight oil in my engine from now on.
#111 of 125 2008 scion xb
Dec 19, 2012 (3:22 pm)
I'm getting sick reading this forum. Is it only the 2008 that has the issues ? I just bought a 2008 Scion xb I had it two days and it seemed like the engine was vibrating only while in drive at a stoplight not in park or neutral let foot off brake it stopped. Found it to be carbon in the throttle they cleaned it out and works fine.
Do all the 2008 xb use alot of oil ? I've read a few posts where it said put in heavier oil has that helped? I'm afraid to wait til 5000 miles to change the oil. My problem is due to my disabilities, back etc the scion was the only vehicle i could get in and out of with ease. Funny thing is when i checked on scion on consumers etc nothing was mentioned about any major problems
#112 of 125 Re: 2008 scion xb [steph58]
Dec 29, 2012 (3:35 pm)
I haven't heard about it either and I'm considering purchasing one with 95K miles. I also have a newer 2011 picked out as well. So, I would like to know, but in the first post where the guy didn't change his oil regularly, that will cause problems in ANY car and anyone should know better, just common sense. But I would like to know before I buy something I can't afford to replace and will be stuck in a 3 year car payment in.