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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [Mr_Shiftright] by 04scizzy
Jul 09, 2006 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 09, 2006 6:02 pm)

theres 40,000 miles on my car and services is better then regular. i use synthetic and still change ever 3000.
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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [04scizzy] by aatherton
Jul 13, 2006 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: 04scizzy (Jul 08, 2006 10:07 pm)

80 mph is 4000 rpm for a manual and is not over-revving. People drive at that speed for days on end. That is not the cause of a damaged connecting rod. Do you have a cold air intake and ever drive in a little water or a puddle?
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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [aatherton] by yoda8391
Jul 13, 2006 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: aatherton (Jul 13, 2006 9:29 am)

I have a cold air intake and also drove through a puddle. My mechenics said that it was not water that blew my engine. Toyota said that my engine hydrolocked. That means the engine seized up. My Mechenics said that it did not hydrolock because the could move the damaged rod and turn over the egine and it would run. My mechenic said to take it to toyota and stick it to them.
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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [yoda8391] by aatherton
Jul 14, 2006 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: yoda8391 (Jul 13, 2006 6:58 pm)

Hydrolocking and seizing are very different. Their only similarity is that they can both stop an engine if severe enough.
 
Hydrolocking means that water gets into a cylinder (through the open cold air intake). The OEM air intake and filter are designed to prevent this.
 
Water is incompressible and suddenly slows the engine, which bends or breaks the connecting rod in that cylinder. A little bit of water will bend the rod, and enough water will break the rod.
 
If the rod bends, the engine keeps going but may make noise and vibrate. The bent rod is weak and has shortened the stroke on that cylinder, which will eventually cause it to fail.
 
If the rod breaks, the engine also keeps going, which thrashes the broken rod around and causes more internal damage. Often the engine jams up and stops, and people often refer to it as "seized".
 
Seizing, however, is technically when the piston expands and sticks in the cylinder from overheating or lubrication failure. It is almost unheard of in water-cooled engines. Often a seized engine will move again after cooling. But if seizing is bad enough, the piston will be stuck until the engine is disassembled.
 
Many people have hydrolocked their Scions after installing cold air intakes and then driving though a little water. Scion is very familiar with claims arising from this.
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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [aatherton] by yoda8391
Jul 14, 2006 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: aatherton (Jul 14, 2006 5:27 am)

What does scion do about these statements? Also how can you tell if there was water in the engine?
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Re: blown xb motor.."s"??? [yoda8391] by aatherton
Jul 16, 2006 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: yoda8391 (Jul 14, 2006 7:37 pm)

Hydrolocking is by definition caused by the owner who drove in water. The stock intake is high enough to drive in deeper water than the low intake of a CAI, and the stock air filter would probably kill the engine before water got as far as the cylinders.
 
The damage caused by hydrolocking is unique to water in a cylinder. It is like the piston meets an incompressible plug of steel, bending or breaking its connecting rod.
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Re: Scion Xb Engine Problems [yoda8391] by hondadave7
Oct 16, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: yoda8391 (Jun 30, 2006 7:47 pm)

Hello,
This new fuel conserving oil 5W30 is extremely slick and has
no ZDP. It is only good for increased fuel mileage. It gives
the engine much less protection. Number 11 said he has 40,000
with no problems, but he has used synthetic which is far superior to the 5W30 10W30 Fuel Conserving oils. I have been
using 15W40 Castrol Diesel oil. The mpg did drop 1.6 mpg, but
the engine runs great. 33,000.
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starting problems by scion06
Jan 12, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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Hi
I have been having intermittent starting problems with my new scion. Every once in a while the car will just turn over many times, and then start. i have had it in 3 times for service, and they have no idea what is wrong. If anyone else is having this problem please reply so i can be backed up with this at the dealership. Or if anyone has any ideas as to what is causing it please reply.
Thanks
Scion06
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Re: starting problems [scion06] by richardson
Jan 15, 2007 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: scion06 (Jan 12, 2007 5:52 pm)

I have an 06 XB with 2300 miles on it. What you describe has happened to me two or three times. Mine has never been back to the dealer. If you can't show them what it does, they won't do anything. You are wasting your time. My car is resting up north in my garage till late April because I'm in Florida. Unless it throws a code or doesn't start, I wouldn't take it back. Jim Richardson
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Metallic rattling from flywheel/clutch area? by morris7
May 14, 2007 (9:25 am)
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Bought an '05 xB with 14k miles. Shortly afterwars, started getting an intermittent metallic rattling sound. It goes away if I push in the clutch slightly. The sound is engine speed dependent, barely there at idle. Does it in neutral and any gears. Intermittent, but happening more often.
 
Also, sometimes my engine wont turn over at all; I have to bump the car very slightly in gear, then fine. Are the two related? I'm thinking maybe so.

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