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#71 of 91 Re: Paint on 2003 Tribute ES [barfeningjodi] by CindySFBay

Dec 03, 2009 (11:24 am)

Replying to: barfeningjodi (Nov 16, 2009 8:05 pm)
Hi there, I just replied to another owner with similar problem so check that post. I sent a lengthy letter to my Mazda dealer and never got a reply. I fixed the problem and paid for it myself but I see another spot of peeling paint developing on the top where it wasn't repainted. I would be happy to join together and contact Mazda again. Send me email at cindycal_00yahoo.com to further discuss. I completely agree with you that is what I was told that the roofs are not painted correctly. The body shop I went to was going to paint the whole roof but they couldn't even get the roof rack off, apparently it is soldered on....

#72 of 91 Re: Paint on 2003 Tribute [CindySFBay] by barfeningjodi

Dec 07, 2009 (12:57 pm)

Replying to: CindySFBay (Dec 03, 2009 11:20 am)
Definitely! I just heard from our dealer after 2 body shops said that to fix the problem meant stripping the entire car & painting the whole thing again from the start (over $5k)-- when I first took it to the dealer after calling Mazda, they said-- oh that looks awful, we will call you and let you know, but I'm sure we'll be fixing it-- they had to get the Mazda rep for my area to review the photos-- but then they called and said no, that I was out of warranty and it was my problem thtat they hadn't seen any other issues-- which to me says-- that Mazda knows there's an issue & just doesn't want to pay for it. I'm going to be working on my dealership to help me first, but I'm wondering if those of us with problems could somehow help each other? Please contact me and let's email each other. I would love to hear more of what you have gone through.
Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it!

#73 of 91 Re: Paint on 2003 Tribute [barfeningjodi] by CindySFBay

Dec 07, 2009 (3:09 pm)

Replying to: barfeningjodi (Dec 07, 2009 12:57 pm)
Yes, please anyone else with this same problem please let us know! I just checked the roof of my car and the part of the roof where the roof rack is peeling now! I am going to contact the dealer and corporate Mazda again.

#74 of 91 Factory Paint Defect by mtcarmelfox

Dec 15, 2009 (8:48 pm)

Automakers while retaining ownership of the paint facilities have outsourced process and quality responsibilities to the paint suppliers in a number of facilities. The automakers require the paint suppliers to provide vehicles painted to the automakers' specifications.
 
A visible manifestation of low film thickness is paint peeling, body rusting and stone chipping. The vehicle may be a factory paint defect. A review of the vehicle's film thickness per individual layer (electrocoat, primer, basecoat and clearcoat) will objectively answer if the vehicle was painted to specification.
 
The automaker, auto dealer and consumer should receive what they paid for:
a vehicle painted to the automakers' specifications.
 
Environmental conditions do have an impact on the vehcile's finish. However,
the vehicle should not be a factory paint defect at the time of delivery.
 
Conduct an internet search on the topic: "Automotive Paint Operations Outsourcing".
  
There was a press release on Vehicle Paint Quality Flaws associated with Outsourcing.
  
It described a study correlating factory data with paint failures.
  
Apparently there has been multiple newscasts throughout North America documenting automotive paint failures.

#75 of 91 Re: Factory Paint Defect [mtcarmelfox] by barfeningjodi

Dec 16, 2009 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: mtcarmelfox (Dec 15, 2009 8:48 pm)
Thank you for the info! I will definitely do a search.
 
I know in my case, the body shops have confirmed (and the dealership service shop) that even with the naked eye there is a layer of paint- the sealant between the top coat and the ecoat is missing. Mazda currently is refusing to correct the situation because it happened outside of warranty, and are claiming they have never seen or heard of this prior. If anyone else *even with it being corrected by Mazda* could let it be known when they contacted them, I'd be very interested!
 
I'm going to read up on the internet more about the paint failures you mentioned above. I really appreciate the help!

#77 of 91 2003 Mazda Tribute paint problems by cmccaughn

Mar 04, 2010 (12:13 pm)

It appears that I am having the same problem as several others out there. Last year I saw a spot of paint peeling on the roof just above the windshield. Later is was all over the roof . I originally thought this may have been caused by automatic carwashes, but it appears that several people are having this same problem. Has anyone know if this is a factory problem or recall. I really hate to spend several thousand dollars to have my vehicle repainted, but it looks horrible. I don't think I will ever own another Mazda.

#78 of 91 Re: 2003 Mazda Tribute paint problems [cmccaughn] by barfeningjodi

Mar 05, 2010 (9:09 am)

Replying to: cmccaughn (Mar 04, 2010 12:13 pm)
I'm so sorry it's happening to you, too. I've done all I know-- from sending formal letters to Mazda, calling Mazda, bringing the car back to the dealership, appealing to the dealership's owner, sending letters, calls, etc. Mazda claims they've never seen anything like this-- but funny how there are so many of us with the same issue! They are refusing to help as it is beyond warranty. I'm not sure what else to do. I have sent some photos and letters to media in my city, but haven't gotten anything back. If anyone else has any success stories or if there was a way for us all to band together to push this issue, it would sure be great. I've been so upset about the situation

#79 of 91 Re: 2003 Mazda Tribute paint problems [cmccaughn] by tnpeople

Apr 08, 2010 (3:08 pm)

Replying to: cmccaughn (Mar 04, 2010 12:13 pm)
Just to let others know. My 03 Tribute is peeling on the roof as well. Right above the windshield and two spots right behind the roof rack (on the back door/hatch). This sucks. I took it to have the back painted and was told the was it looks that, the whole roof would peel..

#80 of 91 Re: 2003 Mazda Tribute paint problems [tnpeople] by CindySFBay

Apr 08, 2010 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: tnpeople (Apr 08, 2010 3:08 pm)
Did you take it to your Mazda dealer? Were they able to get the roof rack off? I have all my paperwork ready to hand deliver to my local Mazda dealer where I bought the car. Then I am going Corporate and to the local consumer spokesperson at a local TV station to see if he can help!

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