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#72 of 81 4 cyl AWD significantly better than 6 cyl AWD? by hipnetic Sep 14, 2008 (6:32 am)
Replying to: bobsw1 (Aug 27, 2008 4:34 pm) I read through this entire thread and it definitely sounds like the 4 cylinder can provide significantly better gas mileage than the 6 cylinder (it looks like I'm reading up to an 8mpg improvement). This contradicts Ford's own literature which, I believe, indicates more of a 1-2mpg improvement. Are they purposely downplaying the advantage of the 4 cylinder (perhaps because they want gas-conscious people to spend more on the Hybrid model?).   We're moving back to CT (from PA) and will likely pick up a used ('05-ish) Escape. We would like the AWD model, just in case we need it for some snow storms, but haven't decided whether to go with the 4 cyl or 6 cyl. If there really is such a significant difference in gas mileage, I'm thinking that the 4 cyl would be the better choice. That said, I'm also a little concerned that the 4 cyl could feel underpowered, and there's a possibility that I might someday want to use it to pull a small sailboat, so I don't know if the 4 cyl would be capable of towing anything.   Advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Replies to this message: bdyment (Sep 15, 2008 11:23 am) hipnetic (Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm) sven5 (Nov 26, 2008 8:09 pm)
#73 of 81 Re: 4 cyl AWD significantly better than 6 cyl AWD? [hipnetic] by bdyment Sep 15, 2008 (11:23 am)
Replying to: hipnetic (Sep 14, 2008 6:32 am) You are going to like the V6 a lot better, especially if you are towing anything. The 4cyl. up to and including the 2008 model is best suited for a front wheel drive model with a manual transmission. It sure doesn't have much go with an automatic and all wheel drive. For 2009 Ford has a more powerful and larger 2.5 litre 4 cyl. Replies to this message: hipnetic (Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm) sven5 (Nov 26, 2008 8:09 pm)
#74 of 81 Re: 4 cyl AWD significantly better than 6 cyl AWD? [bdyment] by hipnetic Sep 15, 2008 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: bdyment (Sep 15, 2008 11:23 am) Bruce, thanks for your input. FWIW, I don't know that I'll ever be towing anything. It's a possibility, but who knows how things will turn out. I'd be curious to hear from some 4 cyl AWD owners to hear whether they think their Escape feels a bit underpowered or if they think it's perfectly fine. Replies to this message: sven5 (Nov 26, 2008 8:09 pm)
#75 of 81 mileage computer by newfordman Oct 15, 2008 (8:38 pm)
just bought 05 limited v6 was expecting 20 around town trip computer says 13.7 avg ford guy told me the computer is out of whack I bought the limited for the trip computer can anone verify I hope this thing gets better than this Replies to this message: bdyment (Oct 16, 2008 4:14 am) fjb37 (Oct 20, 2008 6:07 pm) explorerx4 (Oct 21, 2008 4:57 pm) bj02176 (Oct 23, 2008 2:54 pm)
#76 of 81 Re: mileage computer [newfordman] by bdyment Oct 16, 2008 (4:14 am)
Replying to: newfordman (Oct 15, 2008 8:38 pm) Figure the mileage manually and compare it to the trip computer read out. That will tell you if the trip computer is correct or not. Mileage in the city depends on how heavy the traffic is and how many stops you make. Twenty seems on the high side and 13.5 seems a little bit low.
#77 of 81 Re: mileage computer [newfordman] by fjb37 Oct 20, 2008 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: newfordman (Oct 15, 2008 8:38 pm) Computer on my 05 V6 AWD reads low by about 5%. Mileage in and around Chicago area is about 15 MPG. On a recent highway trip I got 27.1 MPG driving at 60 MPH or less on flat ground without the A/C.   I am using 5-20 Mobil1 full synthetic in the engine and have about 50% Mobil1 synthetic tranny fluid in the automatic.   You might want to check the Nov. 08 issue of Consumer reports. They have a report on SUV and P/U tires. They also cover rolling resistance and its effect on MPG. Just my $0.02.   FredB Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Oct 21, 2008 4:57 pm)
#78 of 81 Re: mileage computer [fjb37] by explorerx4 Oct 21, 2008 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: fjb37 (Oct 20, 2008 6:07 pm) how about posting the results?
#79 of 81 Re: mileage computer [newfordman] by bj02176 Oct 23, 2008 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: newfordman (Oct 15, 2008 8:38 pm) My long gone and forgotten 2005 v6 got around 16 to 17 highway and suburban combined, it was a fine vehicle though.   My not so long gone 2007 Sante Fe with the 2.7 got slightly less, same driving conditions.   My current 2008 CRV gets around 24 with similar driving. However it accelerates as well as both of them, all had and have auto trans.   However nothing beat getting bad mileage like the Jeep liberty that I use to have.
#80 of 81 Re: 4 cyl AWD significantly better than 6 cyl AWD? [hipnetic] by sven5 Nov 26, 2008 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: hipnetic (Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm) We had a '05 Escape 4 cyl. manual AWD for about 50k miles. I was very satisfied with the power and especially mpg. I rarely got below 27 mpg with usually mostly road miles and with an interstate highway tank of gas at 68 mpg got 28-29 mpg. We didn't have any problems in the 50k miles, but the clutch was a little touchy and every so often it would stall at starting. I enjoyed driving the car and it clearly was useful as a utility vehicle and handled snow well with its AWD.
#81 of 81 bad bad mileage by twoplankr22 Dec 23, 2008 (7:45 am)
a few people seem to be in my boat, but not many. 05 xlt, 34000 miles. new air filter, new and properly inflated tires, oil changed every 3-4k. I have been driving the thing like an old lady and am averaging 14mpg city dry streets. with the 2 tons of snow this week the 4x4 has been on alot, and now averaging 9 mpg. these numbers seem insanely low to me. any ideas?

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