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Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute: Problems & Solutions

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Tachometer Pick Up by hwmspec
Sep 02, 2009 (12:47 pm)
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Can anyone tell me where the pick up sensor is for the tachometer in a V6 2003 Tribute? I have scoured the internet but can not find anything. Also, have two Chiltons manuals (for different vehicles) but they tend not to cover an automatic transmission in detail.
 
My Tachometer is stuck at 3000 rpm with the key in the ignition but the vehicle NOT started. Is there another source for this problem?
 
Thanks,
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Re: Tachometer Pick Up [hwmspec] by vg33e power
Sep 03, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: hwmspec (Sep 02, 2009 12:47 pm)

If your tach is stuck at 3K RPMs I dont think your problem is the pick-up sensor (which probably is the crank sensor). I think you need a new cluster assembly.
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Mazda Tribute Tach by hwmspec
Sep 03, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Sorry, poor choice of words. The tach sits at zero until I turn on the ignition. Then it jumps immediately to 3K and is stuck there. At some point, maybe a half hour of driving it will begin to function normally.
 
That is why I believe it is the pick up sensor.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Mazda Tribute Tach [hwmspec] by vg33e power
Sep 03, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: hwmspec (Sep 03, 2009 9:56 am)

I still think is your cluster assembly, because the tach gets its signal from the ECM which gets the signal from the crank sensor. If your crank sensor was bad the check engine light would go on and a DTC would be stored. To me it sounds like the electronics in your cluster may have a short or are malfunctioning, but you are more then welcome to get another opinion.
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Re: Mazda Tribute Tach [vg33e power] by hwmspec
Sep 07, 2009 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: vg33e power (Sep 03, 2009 1:10 pm)

Thanks very much for the info.
 
It could very well be the cluster, which is prohibitive to replace just for the tach function in an automatic. Don't even know why they put a tach in an automatic. My Harley, which should have tach, doesn't.
 
Thanks again.
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Re: Mazda Tribute Tach [hwmspec] by steve_ HOST
Sep 07, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: hwmspec (Sep 07, 2009 4:55 am)

Unlike Harleys, most car engines today are so quiet so need a tach to confirm that you actually started the engine. I've still managed to crank a running engine a couple of times.
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Re: Mazda Tribute Tach [steve_] by hwmspec
Sep 08, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 07, 2009 7:57 am)

Steve,
 
I find it hard to believe I need a tach to tell me the engine is running, if that is the sole reason they put a tach in an automatic; well, there are other means (less expensive) to indicate the car is running.
 
However, what I did notice is that I disconnected the battery for 30 seconds or so, and then reconnected. I inserted the key in the ignition and turned it on but did not start it. The tach, cycled up to 3k, then back down to 0, then sat there for about 15 seconds, Then went back to 3k. Suspicious???
 
In order for the tach to sit at 3K, it has to have some bias signal at the tach
 
I can see some sort of electronic circuit feeding the tach input but am not sure what it could be. For the tach to jump to 3K and then bleed off, and then jump back to 3k (not exactly jump, but ramp up to 3K) is strange. All elicited by removing the battery. Or, is this standard, simply by resetting the car's electronics?
 
What I need is an electrical wiring diagram for my tribute. Is there a pdf file or ...... something on line I can look at.
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Re: Mazda Tribute Tach [hwmspec] by steve_ HOST
Sep 08, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: hwmspec (Sep 08, 2009 5:30 pm)

Wiring diagrams are hit and miss, but I've found quite a few online. Try the links in the Online Repair Manuals guide.
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2006, 2007 Escape Reliability by bmrich
Sep 14, 2009 (7:14 am)
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I am thinking of getting a 2006 or 2007 Escape, FWD, V6. How are these vehicles holding up? Is it the same for the Tribute and Mariners?
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Re: 2006, 2007 Escape Reliability [bmrich] by hwmspec
Sep 14, 2009 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: bmrich (Sep 14, 2009 7:14 am)

Bmrich,
 
It has been my experience that there is a problem with the transmission in both the tribute and the escape (sister vehicles). Google "escape transmissions" and you will discover what I am speaking off. There are a number of reported issues.
 
This was the first time I did all the serice work by the book (typically I do the work myself, but on this vehicle I had the dealership perform the work). Alot of good that did. My tribute transmission died at 60K miles and the dealer does not want to claim responsibility. I took the vehicle to TSI transmissions and had it fixed, I was not going to put another dollar into the mazda dealer pocket. $2500.
 
I would request the ford dealership kick in a warranty on the transmission for the life of the vehicle before I would consider buying it.
 
hwmspec

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