Last post on Feb 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM
You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
What is this discussion about?
Subaru XT, Toyota 4Runner, Wagon, SUV
#38 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [alohaboy]
Feb 07, 2010 (2:33 pm)
Actually, I'm sure they will, and that is a very good idea. Do it. Bring your stroller, if you have that already.
There's a lot more cargo room, but also a much roomier rear seat.
We have a Sienna (149 cubic feet) and a Forester (half a size smaller than the Outback) and each is great in its own way. I'd love to combine qualities from each of them.
#39 of 47 soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner
Feb 08, 2010 (5:10 pm)
Yep, got the stroller, so I figure I'll bring that, our 2 big suitcases, a couple of bags, backpack and a cooler. Of course they might very well think I'm nuts, but I imagine they'd like to make sale eventually.
#40 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [alohaboy]
Feb 09, 2010 (8:10 am)
They're gonna think you're living out of your current car, and plan to "move in" to the new one.
#41 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [ateixeira]
Feb 09, 2010 (1:31 pm)
Ha ha, we have a Sienna and a Forester too, and I'm considering Outback, 4Runner, Pilot, or Highlander as replacements for the Forester. Can't remember why I didn't like the RAV4. Maybe it was that if you wanted heated mirrors you had to get either the Sport with run flats or a Limited with leather.
Whats nice about the Outback is that you can get a car with heated CLOTH seats, heated mirrors, no sunroof, all wheel drive, decent room in the back seat for $25k. My biggest whines about it are the mirrors don't fold, no vent for the rear seats, donut spare, and that the CVT system has not been around for a while.
The 2002 has heated cloth seats, heated folding mirrors, no sunroof, AWD with viscous coupling limited slip differential, and a full size spare. Why can't I get all of that in a bigger vehicle and toss in some vents in the rear. Spare me the Venza, can't stand the center console and 25" rims (OK not that big).
Biggest whines about the 4Runner is the painted plastic surround bumpers (they will get scratched), only Limited has the nice AWD system, and the price. That and its a new generation. I've been lusting after the Trail Edition just for its looks.
I'll save you (all) the Highlander and Pilot whines since you aren't considering them.
Just to keep in mind, one kid can become two, two kids can become three. You would be surprised how the space is gobbled up going on a vacation with three kids; I think alohaboy should consider a minivan.
By the way, a Toyota dealership in Hilo has a 2010 4R Trail Edition in blue, only one to be found on the cars.com website.
#42 of 47 soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner
Feb 09, 2010 (6:53 pm)
So can anyone tell me the difference between the fabric, sport fabric and water resistant fabric seats on the 4Runner? I'm planning on going with a dark interior as my current OB Sport has the light interior and every little thing spot drives me nuts. I think the water resistant stuff is only on the Trail, but I'm curious as to whether the Sport would be a little more stain resistant than the normal fabric. Of course all of these little things I think of increase the price, but if they keep recalling things I might be able to get a better deal.
I kid, I kid.
#43 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [illinoiscentra]
Feb 11, 2010 (5:16 am)
The RAV4's rear door also swings opens the wrong way - blocking curb side loading. That pushed me to a Highlander (no split fold 3rd row) and then finally a Sienna (no such trade-offs, acres of space).
The Forester Premium has heated cloth seats, too, and a traditional automatic if you prefer that. The CVT has had good feedback so far, and particularly good fuel mileage.
As for donuts - do what I did. My wife had a 2002 Legacy with a donut, I replaced it with a full size spare and ditched the foam insert that goes above the spare. Make sure it will fit before you do that, though.
I like the new 4Runner's style, blocky and masculine. I could do without all the blisters in the light clusters, but I still like it a lot overall. For me the gas mileage is the deal-killer. I'm a cheapskate.
#44 of 47 soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner
Feb 11, 2010 (6:32 pm)
The gas mileage doesn't bother me too much. My drive to work is only 15 minutes so I'm not going to get that great of gas mileage no matter what I buy. Besides, I was going to get the 3.6R and not be that conservative with my driving.
I thought about the Highlander, but it doesn't seem as rugged as the 4Runner. I don't plan on getting the 3rd row seat, as the one in my mom's Pilot was pretty darn small, and the one in her new Infiniti looks even smaller. I don't know when I'd ever use the 3rd seat, so I'd rather not pay for it.
#45 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [alohaboy]
Feb 12, 2010 (10:45 am)
Plus why haul the extra weight around?
#46 of 47 soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner
Feb 12, 2010 (3:44 pm)
Exactly. I've got plenty of that already.
#47 of 47 Re: soon-to-be dad debating '10 Outback and 4Runner [alohaboy]
Feb 12, 2010 (6:41 pm)