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Coupes & Convertibles Chevrolet Camaro Consequences of a new Pony Car war
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Replying to: john_324 (May 18, 2006 9:49 am) Actually, it's some of their fans that need to take note of that fact. You'd think that the ONLY things that matter were engine displacement, hp ratings, and 1/4 mile numbers. It's like they want to drive a spec book instead of a car....
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Replying to: rorr (May 18, 2006 10:48 am) So the cars are axed and the assembly line is put to use building what people really wanted to buy, not just admire... 
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Replying to: socala4 (May 18, 2006 8:38 am) I know Ford misjudged the demand for the GT and had to scramble to make more available, but I can't believe the mix is 50-50. At least not around here, I see 2-3 v6 models to every GT at a minimum.
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Replying to: dieselone (May 18, 2006 11:56 am) In any case, I'd say that the six-cylinders need to be turned into bona fide versions, rather than obvious compromises, if they are to achieve high sales numbers and reach a wider audience. Remember that in a broad sense, a sporty coupe could be able to reach a fairly wide audience, and should provide at least indirect competition to a whole host of cars, i.e. Civic Coupe, GTI, Solara, etc. (Yes, I know that these are front-drivers, not American, not direct cousins to the Camaro, etc. but there are buyers who don't necessarily see distinctions between them that are so strong that it would bar them from considering the others, assuming that they meet similar needs. If a Camaro proved to be nicely styled, well built, reliable and otherwise appealing, it should be able to pull sales from several competing nameplates, and not just from Mustang and Challenger buyers.)
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Replying to: socala4 (May 18, 2006 1:27 pm) And that will be key for the Camaro to survive. A solid handling base model with a respectable powertrain would be a big plus. A 3.9 or better yet 3.6 base model with auto and manual trans would be a very competent car that may win some sales from other areas. The problem is most people who are looking at something like a Civic Si or VW GTI probably wouldn't be caught dead at a Chevy dealership.
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Replying to: dieselone (May 18, 2006 3:56 pm) That is probably true in many cases (although I am confident that sentiments don't run as deeply among typical buyers as they would among us on the Inside Line!) But yes, conquest is important, and no automaker can increase its market share without taking buyers from someone else, so this must be part of the plan. That's why the cars have to be that good -- it take more work to win over converts than it does to sell to your loyal fan base. Unfortunately for GM, its fan base just isn't large enough to help it go the distance. |
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At this point, it's all speculation. GM has not committed to anything with the Camaro as of yet. Given the firm's financial situation, I'll believe that GM is producing a Camaro when I see the official auto show introduction of the production model. And GM, unfortunately, has a history of overestimating demand for specialty models. Has GM even unloaded all of those Chevy SSRs yet?
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Replying to: grbeck (May 18, 2006 6:51 pm) |
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Will we see a Asian pony car entry anytime soon? When the pony car wars first started, Japanese companies attempted the make their own (notably the Celica was born for this reason) to compete. However, it just didn't work (probably because of the lack of big engines), and the Asian entries went either 1) down the sport-coupe path to what they are today: relatively small engined, FWD cars or 2) down the sports-car path (the high-end ones). But these days, "Asian V8" is no longer a contradiction. So does anyone think we'll be seeing a RWD Toyota "Kirin" (based say on the Camry platform) with a V8 engine option that'll give the big three a run for their money? 
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Replying to: john_324 (May 19, 2006 9:31 am) You could argue that the Mazda RX-8 is a Pony car although it isn't based on a sedan platform.
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