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#35 of 50 Re: Tc vs Tib [karateboi] by richs3

May 22, 2007 (12:31 am)

Replying to: karateboi (May 21, 2007 11:38 pm)
Your observations concerning TC and Tib seem vivid enough, you do seem to go full circle though regarding Tib's gas appetitite, and then ending with IS300's gas setback. I am too lazy at this moment (actually around 12pm) to do research on the Lexus, but generally, when I see them I like them, and there are some that seem to me to be quite sporty,even when they have four doors. They seem zippy, and eloquent to boot. As I said, I have not researched IS300, but I would think them to be in a quite different (higher class, but also substantially more expensive) than TC or Tib. (by far). As for Acura RSX, I thought I saw it rated around 151 hp, though I could be wrong. They look to perform well, but their entry price is around at least 21k+, last I looked. An attractive car, but . . . I would not push the Tib, but, for the money, you can get pretty well loaded (no, the car, not you) with leather seats, tilt steering, 7-speaker stereo system, Sycnro-mesh (or whatever techno-term) auto-trans, a more functional moon roof than TC, etc.) As for Toyota Celica, I could be wrong but imo they are not going to be making those anymore? A few seemed like they were trying to race me when I had the Tib, or else, I couldn't tell. But they are rated higher hp than TC, though they might be lacking torque, and their hp is at high rpm, still, I'm thinking they are faster than TC, though I could be wrong. Nissan seems to make very nice sporty cars, though in a higher price bracket, Passats seem nice, again, a substantially higher bracket, as is also the Subaru WRX, and Mitsubish All Wheel drive entries. Mazda RX seems of consideration in 25K bracket, as is also Eclipse, in about 23K bracket. But eclipse is heavy, and Mazda, seems to go up in price dramatically with just a few extra options, also, their torque is a question to me. And then, there's the Chevrolet niche competitor that comes with turbo, and around 210 hp. Certainly it's not overly eloquent or fancy, but it meets performance expectations, fun driving, and some good looks, as well, for a fair price.

#36 of 50 Re: Tib's Reliability [stepdad] by ebchicago

May 24, 2007 (5:01 pm)

Replying to: stepdad (May 14, 2007 9:11 am)
Hi,
 
We are buying a new car, and it's either 6-cyl manual Tiburon SE or the 6-cyl manual Mitsubishi Eclipse GT. We've been researching on this and other sites.
 
We both noticed the HUGE difference between Tiburon owner ratings on multiple web sites (all high) and the Consumer Reports rating (very low).
 
This gap seemed paradoxical, so I read the reviews to see what Consumer Reports had to say. then I read other reviews as well on the Consumer Reports site.
 
Now I understand: The Consumer Reports review of 2007 models is NOT objective when it comes to the Tiburon AND to other sporty models.
 
Here's why: Consumer Reports consistently TRASHES just about any car with BOTH of the following:
- sport suspension
- 2-door with a smaller back seat
 
The Tiburon and Eclipse both qualify (and the Scion does not), and both get very poor marks from Consumer Reports as a result. Read the detailed reviews for both cars, and you'll see that I am accurate.
 
Consumer Reports seems to assume that drivers of sporty cars want soft suspension. News flash: they don't!
 
CS also seems to assume that a sporty car drivers are expecting the back seat of a 4-door sedan. Well, they don't!
 
I rode in friend's Tiburon back seat (I'm 6 feet tall) and was reasonably comfortable for at least the 5-mile drive that we were on. Yet, Consumer Reports says that the Tiburon back seat is "unusable". Is CS biased? I sure think so.
 
Read their reviews again with what I have stated in mind, and you'll likely come to the same conclusion.
 
Thanks,
Eric

#37 of 50 Re: Tib's Reliability [ebchicago] by heavyrightfoot

May 24, 2007 (7:50 pm)

Replying to: ebchicago (May 24, 2007 5:01 pm)
It seems you have a bit of a dilemma since you are in no way comparing apples to apples. I have an '07 Tiburon SE and I love it. I love the way it looks, handles, and performs.
 
But it isn't in the same price or performance class as the Mitubishi Eclipse GT. The Tib SE is thousands less expensive (I paid 22 out the door for mine) and consequently there is a significant horsepower differential.
 
Not only that, but in my opinion, Mitsubishi ruined the design in 07. I don't believe the '07 Eclipse looks anywhere near as sporty as the '06 and prior years. For me that rounded rear end makes it look a bit stodgy.
 
Sorry Mitsu owners, I intend no offense. just my humble opinion.

#38 of 50 Re: Tib's Reliability [ebchicago] by richs3

May 24, 2007 (8:24 pm)

Replying to: ebchicago (May 24, 2007 5:01 pm)
Hey Eric, interesting post. Well there goes, there is the answer to my scrumpled eye brow look like - huh? But as you probably saw in my earlier entry, I know what I know, and I don't have to hang my hat of satisfaction upon some 'removed' report from a person who is getting paid to make his or her (typically his for cars) report. Your observation bears the point well. And speaking of slanted, let me say this, I'm a 6' even just like Steven, I usually don't have people riding in the back seat, and consequently I had never gotten in the back of TC before to try it out. My girl friend's nephew, somewhat shorter than myself while in his teens, visited her from out of state, and needed a ride with us one day. I saw him leaning down just a bit to fit his head. I apologized to him, but he liked the car, and said 'that's alright'. Later, I tried to sit in the back seat. Gosh TC might be more comfortable for wider people than the Tib, but not for height, not where it slopes down so fast. And width wise, in the front seat, my right leg felt much more comfortable driving in Tib than in TC. Also, TC is notably lower vertically in front seat than my experience in Tib. As for Mitsubishi, perhaps a bit more classy look, perhaps a 'solid' car, certainly more hp, although more weight also. I think the other person responding summed it up fairly well with the apples analogy, I don't know how sporty the eclipse feels. It might convey a better image, and more power. I can only say that I found the Tiburon to be a fun car, to me. I suggest you drive them both, and pray about it. It's not every day one buys a car, and you personally have to feel satisfied with your decision and financial feel as well.

#39 of 50 TC's Morph-into-an-Orange Tib Commercial! by wylldshark

May 29, 2007 (9:28 am)

Hey,
 
I had forgot about this particular commercial, but it's one of Toyota's "hip" CG animated ads for the TC and the car is running along the road while all these parts fly onto it, apparently to show its modifiable look. I swear the first time I saw this, which was at the end, I thought it was a Tib commercial. Then to my disappointment I found it was just a Toy ad. What struck me as ironic however, is how TC clearly takes a stab at Tiburon by adding the fins on the back and having the shark appearance.
 
And anyone that says the TC doesn't resemble a bloated '05-'06 Tib, especially from back, just isn't paying attention.

#40 of 50 Re: Bloating by richs3

May 29, 2007 (8:23 pm)

Replying to: wylldshark (May 29, 2007 9:28 am)
Yeah, we've got to watch out for bloating. But as mentioned in post, I do think the newer Eclipse has that a bit, like a chubby back end. If there's one thing I do like about the TC, I'm fairly happy with its looks. Yeah, it is modifiable a lot, but . . . should that really be a "feature", or can't it be more 'complete', if you will, upon initial receipt of? I mean . . should that overly put a smile on my face? I'm thinking, that a little bit more right out the gate would be great also. It is good that they have third party support though, you know what they say, keep that cash flow going, and 'money makes the world go round'. It's just another marketing slant. "Come and get your car for less" and now "come and get the rest of your car for more". Come on, who's fooling who? (Whatever, . . I realize there are some customer benefits with that . . possibly.)
 
Regarding the commercial you mentioned, I saw, but only once, I looked up at tv at Yardhouse, and it went by so quickly, I barely caught it, though it looked cool. I don't watch tv much. Again, if one thing Toyota does well, it's marketing. However, I'd be happy if some companies balance out the ratio between the money they invest into 'marketing', and the money they invest into R & D. I suspect Toy has relaxed a bit, but now saving its bigger efforts on Trucks, new SUV's, and Lexus. Lexus for sure, is no doubt a lucrative justification for them to put some effort in. There are a lot of rich people who don't mind overpaying for a product. As for their (expensive) sport coupe, I think people are much better off for much much lower price with a Nizzan Z, etc.
Regards, Rich

#41 of 50 Re: Bloating by wylldshark

May 31, 2007 (8:53 am)

I think people are much better off for much much lower price with a Nizzan Z, etc.
 
And let's not forget the RWD, 4.6L V7 Powered Coupe Hyundai's producing next year!

#42 of 50 Re: Hyundai Tiburon Vs. Scion tC [n82002] by dmac12000

Aug 21, 2007 (2:58 pm)

Replying to: n82002 (Nov 03, 2005 7:25 pm)
i own a tC...I recommend you buy the hyundai!

#43 of 50 Re: Hyundai Tiburon Vs. Scion tC [dmac12000] by richs3

Aug 21, 2007 (7:51 pm)

Replying to: dmac12000 (Aug 21, 2007 2:58 pm)
Not for me, per se, but for the person you addressed, could there perhaps be articulation as to why you would say so to them? I'm sure that specifics of your experience would be of interest. Elsewise, there is not much chance on anyone really banking on such a brief statement, although it does notably express your preference.

#44 of 50 Wait for the RWD Tiburon by jonnylee

Aug 29, 2007 (9:43 pm)

The RWD Tiburon will have around 300HP

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