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Pontiac GTO, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Coupe
#458 of 471 Re: Just as fast? I dont think so...... [ebae]
Mar 15, 2007 (10:36 am)
Faster Period? Hmm you should qualify your statement. The GTO is faster in a straight line in dry pavement. Now you add a little road gravel, dirt, rain, snow etc. and the STi will be faster in a straight line, basically all but ideal conditions. Let's not talk about a road course, where the STi will eat the GTO alive through the twisties.
Don't get me wrong, I like the GTO, as it's much comfier than the STi but all out performance, an EVO or STi in a well rounded test will beat a GTO hands down.
#459 of 471 Times are off
Apr 18, 2007 (12:22 pm)
Both Cars Run low 13s and you don't have to be a pro to do it either as some people think is the case, the auto in the GTO is faster and pulls a 13.0 compared to a m6 13.1, ive seen both times pulled stock, and the WRX ive seen as good as a 13.2 in the quarter. and the GTO does have good trunk space, but who needs it anyway, thats what backseats are for...
Apr 23, 2007 (5:08 am)
Well this comparison is no longer relevant anyway due to Holden's decision to can the Monaro as its sales were poor, especially in the Australian market. Also "classic American muscle"? Give me a break! Just like Top Gear 'claimed' the Vauxhaul Monaro, Holden's connection to GM is not doing the brand any favours and with such a rich muscle car heritage its a shame to have good Australian products assimilated by GM with little to no recognition of their creator. Anyway, the GTO Monaro, although a good car, was never very popular however if you can get your hands on a new VE Commodore SS or an HSV Clubsport...
#462 of 471 Inclement weather?Dirt roads?No more excuses plz.
Aug 29, 2007 (9:50 am)
As far as road conditions go...if that is the qualifier (meaning EXCUSE) that one has to use in order to equate the performance (meaning speed) of these vehicles, then so be it. (Personally, I dont do much racing in the snow or dirt). Also, 99% of street racing is in a line... the STI or EVO are better ROAD racing cars over complete courses, but on the street, the GTO's 400 ft/lbs. of torque is WAY too much for the little guys. (Also, the ls2's torque curve is as broad and flat as Ving Rhames's nose). Not to mention... I wonder what a STI or EVO would do against a supercharged GTO running the same level of boost? The real considerations dont even come into play until after the modifications get started. The GTO comes naturally aspirated with tons of room to improve... the STI's and EVO's come from the factory straining the very limits of what a 4-banger can do. The GTO is faster from the factory, and it only gets worse for the ricers from there.
#463 of 471 Re: Inclement weather?Dirt roads?No more excuses plz. [ebae]
Aug 29, 2007 (9:53 am)
Not true at all, tuned STIs can make more power, and in fact often do. There are entire clubs and threads on NASIOC for that single purpose.
#464 of 471 Mod & Tune the GTO the same way and we'll see :)
Aug 29, 2007 (10:14 am)
Yes, you may see an increase of 25 or 30% if you spend a butt load of money on an STI... but a GTO that employs a good turbo setup (i.e. Lingenfelter's kits) can experience a GAIN of 250-300 hp, equal to the ENTIRE stock output of the STI. As corny as it sounds, there's no replacement for displacement!
#465 of 471 Re: Mod & Tune the GTO the same way and we'll see :) [ebae]
Aug 29, 2007 (12:05 pm)
You'll spend a fortune to do it, though.
With the STI all you need is a chip.
You're correct, but we're talking about very different pricing levels for those upgrades.
Aug 31, 2007 (1:19 pm)
At least you have the choice with the GTO... all the money in the world cant change the fact that your working with an inline four against a v8. Also, due to the bland styling, most gto's were purchased at about 5-6 grand below MSRP including the incentives...MORE than enough for a supercharger.
#467 of 471 Re: Mods [ebae]
Sep 04, 2007 (7:46 am)
Meh, I think that's just overkill. There's enough power to fry the tires on both of these bone-stock.
Let's see what GM can do with a 4 door, i.e. the G8.