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Pontiac GTO v. Subaru STi

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#31 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi [sputterguy] by kevm14

Jun 01, 2005 (11:41 am)

Replying to: sputterguy (Jun 01, 2005 8:55 am)
Speaking of that type of thing, I just watched the STi vs GTO comparo video. I noticed the GTO has like zero brake dive. Start watching at 2:30, where they do the 60-0 test. As it comes to a stop, the entire car was hunkered down while stopping. That's a sign of a combination of good brake biasing, suspension design, shock damping and spring rate. The STi dives noticably more. Of course, the STi stopped faster from 60...but that part impressed me anyway.

#32 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi [graphicguy] by sputterguy

Jun 01, 2005 (4:20 pm)

Replying to: graphicguy (Jun 01, 2005 10:23 am)
You're the only one that's driven them back to back so your opinion carries a lot of weight. At least with rorr and myself.

#33 of 471 sputterguy by rorr

May 27, 2005 (12:17 pm)

"I couldn't find the comparison but it doesn't matter."
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=105773?flushCache=true
 
You should read it; they actually had many complimentary things to say about the GTO as well has some differing opinions for some of the other editors.
 
"Just another chance to put down the GTO. Whatever, we are used to it."
 
At least you didn't use the "conspiracy" word. For that, I salute you.
 
"So come on you mustangers, tell Edmunds you want a comparison with the STi."
 
Personally, I think they should do a bigger roundup of cars: they did 2 in this test (GTO vs. STi), and 3 in a previous test (Mustang, RX-8, 350z). They need to lump all the RWD/AWD performance cars in the 25-35k bracket together in one big mosh pit and let'em all have at it. Of course, once you include the 'gotta have it' factor, is there any doubt who'll win?

#34 of 471 Re: sputterguy [rorr] by sputterguy

May 27, 2005 (6:10 pm)

Replying to: rorr (May 27, 2005 12:17 pm)
You're right. When I read it, it was more positive than I expected considering the quotes. In fact it was one of the most complimentary reviews regarding its power and interior and even exterior styling. And even the criticism was constructive. I see where benderguy is coming from now. But still, what a mismatch. A little whiney 2.5. Come on. Run it against a turbo Porsche. Then rave about how it slices through the slalom. Or like I said, compare it with the Mustang. The statistics are similar except for the STi's lower weight and of course the AWD. I'm tired of these comparisons though. I want to see some real racing. Like you said, put them all together and let them go at it. And yeah, we know who wins with the gotta have it factor.

#35 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi(merritt) by merrittgto2

Jun 03, 2005 (3:41 pm)

Been waiting ages for SOMEONE to say that!!!!!!!
Right on man Right on

#36 of 471 GTO vs STi? by exalteddragon1

Jun 01, 2005 (4:40 pm)

Edmunds compared the RWD GTO to an AWD subaru in a recent comparo and held that the subie was better.
 
I have a question: are these cars comparable?
 
You cannot compare them! First of all, the Subari is a FOUR DOOR and the GTO is a COUPE,
Secondly, the Subaru is AWD and the GTO is RWD!
 
I don't understand, do the folks at edmunds just want to apologise for glorifying the GTO (2004) when it turned out to be a sales flop, or they just wanted to show bias for foreign cars?
 
These two are not even on the same hemesphere, the only thing they have in common is price. Of course AWD is gonna handle better than RWD, i think NASCAR tried that in the 80's or 90's, its just wrong IMO.
 
Also, i don't think anyone would cross shop the two cars. And BTW, how many Percocet does it take to wake up in the morning and say the Subaru has a better interrior than the GTO, a car that in Austrailia competes with BMW's?

#37 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi? [exalteddragon1] by gottabgto

Jun 01, 2005 (8:15 pm)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Jun 01, 2005 4:40 pm)
I thought they said the GTO interior was superior by far.
Hmmmm.
But I agree - how could they even think of comparing them.

#38 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi? [exalteddragon1] by kevm14

Jun 02, 2005 (5:34 am)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Jun 01, 2005 4:40 pm)
Edmunds compared the RWD GTO to an AWD subaru in a recent comparo and held that the subie was better.
 
But if you read the editors' comments, you'll see that if they had to buy one for everyday use, it would probably be the GTO. That counts for a lot.

#39 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi? [exalteddragon1] by jontyrees

Jun 02, 2005 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Jun 01, 2005 4:40 pm)
I think it's kind of an interesting comparison. I own an '04 GTO, and while I like the Subaru, I wouldn't be in the market for one, (too harsh for my everyday driving). Doesn't mean I'm not interested in how they perform next to each other, though. Don't you see STis, or S4s, or M3s, or Cobras in traffic and wonder how your car would stack up?

#40 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi? [gottabgto] by sputterguy

Jun 03, 2005 (7:51 am)

Replying to: gottabgto (Jun 01, 2005 8:15 pm)
It was ambiguous. Early on it said the STi had a higher quality interior. Later it said the STi had uncomfortable seats with high friction cloth and the drivers seat wasn't positioned correctly either.....

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