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Pontiac GTO, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Coupe
#21 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man]
May 31, 2005 (10:09 am)
Hmmmm....I never heard Tang contradict anything. As he's stated many times, he'd put the Mustang's solid rear engineering up against IRS. He went onto say based on how well the Mustang's suspension turned out, the added cost, weight and complexity of an IRS was not worth it.
I've driven both. I agree with him.
#22 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man]
May 31, 2005 (10:40 am)
Well, if the solid rear is so bad, then why are the reviews of Mustangs' handling so good?
And if IRS is so great, then why did the Edmunds' editors have so much to complain about with the GTOs' suspension? (Please re-read above quotes from recent comparison article).
#23 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man] [graphicguy]
Jun 01, 2005 (5:35 am)
Tang originally said in his first interview that he wanted the IRS. but the bean counters, "accountants" at Ford told him NO!!! Then again they perfected the Solid Rear to be very good BUT!!!! Rumor now says that the mustangs Solid rear axle cost more then an IRS> They spent alot of $$ on it. Kudos to the Stang. As I have remained I love both cars. Muscle cars to the Extreme.
#24 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man] [benderofbows]
Jun 01, 2005 (5:41 am)
Benderofbows, Both cars have good handling. Drive both and see for yourself. For me the GTO felt like it had better ride/seats and handling, just my opinion. To me I have many bumpy roads around here near NY city, so the IRS made the dif. Had a 442, Grand National, etc, with solid rear end. sick and tired of the bumps throwing it off course.
#25 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man] [graphicguy] [442man]
Jun 01, 2005 (5:45 am)
442....Don't want to get into splitting "hairs" on semantics. I don't know how much it cost Ford to develop the current Mustang's solid rear. I do know I very much liked the Mustang's handling and prefered it over the GTO's.
But, as you say, muscle cars are back and they are very good this go round.
#26 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man] [graphicguy] [442man]
Jun 01, 2005 (5:47 am)
Yes, the cars and the competition is great!
#27 of 471 Re: IRS vs solid rear[benderofbows] [442man] [graphicguy] [442man] [graphic
Jun 01, 2005 (5:52 am)
I agree as well. I love all Muscle, Mustang-GT0, Vette ETc.... We'll see as gas prices go up, LOL!
#28 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi [graphicguy]
Jun 01, 2005 (7:55 am)
Personally, I have yet to experience any of the wobble or body roll alluded to. I've noticed a verticle motion when excellerating which I don't like but I would rather live with it rather than the cure which is probably stiffer springs.
#29 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi [benderofbows]
Jun 01, 2005 (8:30 am)
I guess I am as sensitive about the GTO's handling as you are of the Mustang's solid rear. As I said before if the solid rear works for you that's all that counts. The GTO is the best performing car I've had. Like that quote that says "push it harderthe problems become evident" or something like that. I admit I don't go around corners at 50mph but it's handled what I have dished out to it.
#30 of 471 Re: GTO vs STi [sputterguy]
Jun 01, 2005 (9:23 am)
Sputter....no need to be sensitive at all. You've got a nice car.
As rorr has said (man, you've got a good memory) we each have our own preferences. Having the good (and sometimes bad) fortune of driving many cars over a short period of time, I preferred the Mustang's suspension. It's more akin to the type of handling I like (sharp and quick) and the ride I like (firmly damped with no uncontrolled movements). You like the GTO's suspension (which was on the "bigger car handling" side of things...something I don't prefer). That certainly doesn't mean everybody is going to like what I do. Nor, does it mean everyone is going to like what you prefer.
In the end, we drive what we like.
To dismiss either car for the type of architecture they use for thier respective suspension means someone hasn't driven both, back-to-back.