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#62 of 71 Re: getting gas mileage improvements [entourage2007]
by greysave
Jun 25, 2008 (9:21 am)
It takes a long time (miles) to see a decent mileage improvement. I believe that a good portion of the reason for this is the amount of time it takes for the transmission to "learn" your driving habits and break in. When new, the transmission in our Entourage always felt like it downshifted when you removed your foot from the accelerator. You could feel substantial engine braking and thus could not coast. You HAD to keep your foot on the accelerator even on downgrades at highway speeds. You could actually feel the drag as soon as the cruise control relaxed the throttle and tried to coast. Then you would feel the throttle re-applied to maintain speed.
I started to notice a reduction in the engine braking at about 9,000 miles and it is now much less common. Fuel mileage early on was only about 22 MPG on the highway when new. I have not had a chance to check the highway mileage lately as this is my wife's vehicle, but given the change in transmission operation it has to have improved. She will never get good city mileage as her driving habits are not conducive to good mileage. She gets about 13 MPG in the city on a good day and that's most likely all she ever will obtain as she is either on or off of the throttle. She is never smooth.
Personally, given today's technology, I do not see any reason that all vehicles cannot have a "power / economy" switch with a seperate program for engine performance assigned to each. That would allow the operator to make a choice over how they wish for the engine to perform. There could also be an automatic override that would allow the program to revert to "power" anytime the throttle position exceeds a set percentage (Let's say 50% for argument's sake). That way in an emergency situation where full power is needed it can be applied automatically without any action from the operator.
#63 of 71 Re: getting gas mileage improvements [greysave]
by the_catinhat
Oct 22, 2008 (6:52 pm)
2007 Entourage limited 17-20 mpg only when first drove did the readout show 24 or 25 mpg. I have to agree that the stated 18 city and 25 highway were deceptive advertising.
#64 of 71 Re: Hyundai Entourage: MPG - Real World Numbers [hrngffcr]
by hjc1
Apr 27, 2009 (6:01 am)
I just completed a 3000+ mile trip from FL. to WI. and back......
Most of the trip was on the Interstate traveling mostly at 70+ mph except for a 2 hour bumper to bumper stop and go road repair in Atlanta area :=(
Using the old method of gas used and mileage traveled I ended up with a total trip
of 24.85 miles per gallon. Using the trip computer during the stop and go portion of the trip it showed no lower then 19.6 mpg.
Over all for a 4000+lb van I'm happy with the results. The ride was great.
This is one heck of highway cruiser
#65 of 71 Re: Hyundai Entourage: MPG - Real World Numbers [ladnlins]
by obkt
Apr 29, 2009 (6:45 am)
Bought my '07 Entourage new. Have averaged 16.5 city (mostly 35 MPH) and 24 hwy. Can't complain.
#66 of 71 Mileage Update
by drno
May 11, 2009 (8:20 pm)
With 24,000 miles on a 2007 model, recent trips from Pittsburgh to State College, PA and Coschocton, OH have averaged a little over 27 mpg. Much of the travel was on secondary roads at speeds of about 60 mph or less. This lower speed makes a big difference in mileage. When driving at 70 or so on the interstates with AC, the mileage is between 23 and 25, depending on hills and conditions.
I also note that the speedometer reads about 3.5 mph low from about 45mph to 70+mph. This is based on a Garmin GPS for a running experiment and every so often by stopwatch using mile markers.
#67 of 71 Re: Mileage Update [drno]
by rob22315
May 28, 2009 (1:46 am)
Yes, it's the RPM that makes a huge difference. My last long (2+ hrs) trip, I watched the MPG meter carefully and noted MPG improved if I shifted manually to keep the engine between 1500 and 2000 rpm. I could keep it reading 24 MPG even while change speed. IIRC, most gas car engines are designed for peak efficiency around 1700 RPM.
Note the tranny seems to go back to shifting automatically below 1500.
#68 of 71 Re: 2007 Entourage MPG is TERRIBLE [tonykeas]
by wizardsrepair
May 29, 2009 (5:39 am)
Don't expect too much from the people at Hyundai. They are for the company and "they have to call the dealer first". That is want I was told when i called in a complaint to them.
May 29, 2009 (5:48 am)
I bought my 2008 Entourage in March of 09. It was new and I expected so much with the warranty that was offered. In the second month I noticed a discoloring in the headlight lens and asked them a bought it and after being referred to the factory rep I was told that it didn't interfere with the operation and it wouldn't be replaced because of the price. I then took it to the dealer last week because the driver's seat is popping and was tod that the factory rep would have to look at it to see if it was far enough out of specs to warrant replacement because of the price. They never said anything about the price before or in any of the warranty material that I have found. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing.
#70 of 71 My mileage
by stush
Jul 29, 2009 (6:43 pm)
Just did a quick 4hr trip and got close to 25 mpg. I'm at almost 47,000 miles. Still average about 17 - 18 around town.
#71 of 71 Re: getting gas mileage improvements [entourage2007]
by obkt
Jul 29, 2009 (9:41 pm)
We just got back from a 3800 mile trip in our '07 Entourage to Tennessee and Georgia. 75% was freeway. The rest was 2 lane roads and in town. Driving the speed limits, we averaged 24.5 going, and 23.6 coming home.
No complaints here. After all, it is a van.