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Hybrid Prius that gets over 100 Miles per Gallon

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Plug-in Priuses by idele
Jul 24, 2006 (9:12 am)
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When Jim Press announced that Toyota was working on plug-in hybrids it was treated as something new. Actually in 2005 the Toyota Dream House (mine too) that was exhibited for 6 months at that time had a complete Prius plug-in setup. Particularly interesting to me, since I get power from a rural electric coop which has its downtimes, is the use of the Prius to supply electricity to the house if needed. I refer you to this website:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/09/toyota_dream_ho.php
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Re: Plug-in Priuses [idele] by larsb
Jul 24, 2006 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: idele (Jul 24, 2006 9:12 am)

It was "treated as new" because no one at Toyota Corporate had ever announced OFFICIALLY that Toyota was looking into PEVs as an item they would sell as a production car.
 
This was the first time.
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battery charger for a 2006 prius by michaeltnevill
Aug 20, 2006 (8:29 am)
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i am about to purchase a 2006 prius,and would like to know if there is a after market charger i could use in my garage at a reasonable price. also would charging the batteries hurt it? and would i have to add additional batteries to attain some results and still be cost efficient-mike please respond-thank you michaeltnevillecomcast.net
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [michaeltnevill] by terry92270
Aug 20, 2006 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: michaeltnevill (Aug 20, 2006 8:29 am)

It would void your warranty, and the Prius, and other Hybrids, are not made to be "topped' off, but rather keep the battery at about 70-75%. This is to give head room for the regenerative breaking system to charge while driving, etc.
 
To keep it at 100% would actually shorten the battery life and impair the system, I believe.
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [michaeltnevill] by midnightcowboy
Aug 28, 2006 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: michaeltnevill (Aug 20, 2006 8:29 am)

The beauty of the Prius and other Hybrid systems is that they automatically recharge themselves.
 
No plug-in is needed!
 
MidCow
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [midnightcowboy] by terry92270
Aug 28, 2006 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Aug 28, 2006 1:00 pm)

Yes!
 
The best of both for the real world.
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [midnightcowboy] by timinalaska
Aug 29, 2006 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Aug 28, 2006 1:00 pm)

Yes, there is a beauty with the Prius and other Hybrid systems in that they automatically recharge themselves.
 
But true beauty is a Prius or hybird where you have an 'optional' ability to plug in and get a 100 mile boost. So for your commuter workweek, you can average 100 miles per gallon. You still don't have to plug in -- but if you want to get a boost, you could average 100 mpg for those everyday trips.
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [timinalaska] by battpwr
Aug 29, 2006 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: timinalaska (Aug 29, 2006 2:38 pm)

How can you get 100mpg except for coasting?
Would be great to hear. I have had my 2006 Prius for about 2 months now and am getting 47.5 mpg. Thanks for the info. I'm in Alaska also.
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [timinalaska] electricity costs by midnightcowboy
Aug 30, 2006 (4:21 am)
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Replying to: timinalaska (Aug 29, 2006 2:38 pm)

timinalaska,
 
You must be an optimist looking through rose colored glasses. Electric cost to plug-in and charge a battery is not free. You have to equate the cost to equvalent gallons of gas and in doing so recalculate you effective mileage. Remember no energy conversion is 100% efficient coal/hydro > electric> transformers for distribution > battery > mechanical car; there is alway loss!. I surmise you might be suprised to find that if you did have and elctric pulg-in your effective gas mileage would probably go down ; not up.
 
YEMMV E=electric
 
MidCow
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Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [timinalaska] electricity costs [midnightcowboy] by timinalaska
Aug 30, 2006 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Aug 30, 2006 4:21 am)

For reference, please go to www.calcars.org. In order to get 100 mpg, you must install an after-market conversion where additional batteries that essentially fuel the car for the first 100 miles of a trip are installed.
 
The 100 mpg does not hold true for the standard prius, it's for the optional plug-in hybrids, or PHEV. You can convert the standart Prius into a PHEV. And of course there is always loss with energy, but for an overnight charge with the conversion, the electricity will cost you about $1.00. Compare that to an average of $3.00 a gallon for gasoline across the U.S. And while coal plants are still dirty, in California, most of California's energy does not come from coal and it's much cleaner. Unfortunately, coal still account for 60 % of our fuel for electricity for the rest of the U.S.
 
But is it easier to clean up millions of dirty cars, or is it better to clean up a relatively small number of coal plants. And as our sources for electricity become cleaner, the optional plug in hybrid makes even more sense.
 
Please call Toyota and other hybrid makers to encourage them to make these cars. The cars are available today, but it's engineers on their own that are converting these cars at a high cost. If Toyota can do this in large scale, you could have a hybrid that gets a 100 miles per gallon boost from an overnight charge that costs less than a $1.00.

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