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#21 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [toyoinfo] by john1701a Jul 06, 2006 (8:49 am)
Replying to: toyoinfo (Jul 06, 2006 7:56 am) > Also, most experts think that hybrid cars, such as the Toyota Prius and Ford Escape Hybrid, will need a replacement battery pack after eight years or 100,000 miles.   Those so-called experts aren't all that smart or observant... since there are quite a few owners well in excess of 100,000 miles without any need for battery-pack replacement. It doesn't make sense either, since the warranty in some states is for 10 years / 150,000 miles.   The latest update from Jesse (a friend of mine with a Classic Prius) is having surpassed 243,000 miles with the original still.   JOHN Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 06, 2006 12:24 pm) eaa (Jul 23, 2006 1:26 pm) idele (Jul 24, 2006 4:24 am) and 2 more...
#22 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [john1701a] by gagrice Jul 06, 2006 (12:24 pm)
Replying to: john1701a (Jul 06, 2006 8:49 am) Jesse (a friend of mine with a Classic Prius) is having surpassed 243,000 miles with the original still.   That is pretty darn good. Longer than I would have bet on them. Replies to this message: eaa (Jul 23, 2006 1:26 pm) idele (Jul 24, 2006 4:24 am) gagrice (Jul 24, 2006 7:39 am) and 1 more...
#23 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [gagrice] by eaa Jul 23, 2006 (1:26 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2006 12:24 pm) NiMH have been run to over 300,000 miles. The new lithium should last as long.   The new Tesla pure electric EV that was just released July 20,2006 uses lithium and they say 100,000 miles is expected.   These are not your old lead acid 100 year old technology ! Replies to this message: idele (Jul 24, 2006 4:24 am) gagrice (Jul 24, 2006 7:39 am) idele (Jul 24, 2006 8:57 am)
#24 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [eaa] by idele Jul 24, 2006 (4:24 am)
Replying to: eaa (Jul 23, 2006 1:26 pm) The Tesla car is very interesting but it should be pointed out that the battery pack consists of thousands of off-the-shelf lithium-ion batteries used for portable electronic devices and weighs about 1000 pounds. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 24, 2006 7:39 am) idele (Jul 24, 2006 8:57 am)
#25 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [idele] by gagrice Jul 24, 2006 (7:39 am)
Replying to: idele (Jul 24, 2006 4:24 am) Good point. I think some thought this car was a break through on battery technology. No one has a large size Li-ion battery that is safe to use where any heat is involved. From the price of the car it looks like battery pricing is still very high. Replies to this message: idele (Jul 24, 2006 8:57 am)
#26 of 74 Re: Lithium-ion batteries for Hybrids? [gagrice] by idele Jul 24, 2006 (8:57 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 24, 2006 7:39 am) I thank you for starting the posts on this topic. The cost of fossil fuels in money and pollution has led to many startups for new automotive powerplants. Tesla is an example: it was funded by Silicon Valley venture capital. There are other ventures aimed at big lithium-ion batteries which can get around their operating tempurature limitations. Ultimately one wants large capacitors instead of batteries. There is big money at work on this. For example, a joint venture of Dupont in the USA and Teijin in Japan for large capacitors. And there's the important and promising research on capacitors at academic institutions such as MIT.
#27 of 74 Plug-in Priuses by idele Jul 24, 2006 (9:12 am)
When Jim Press announced that Toyota was working on plug-in hybrids it was treated as something new. Actually in 2005 the Toyota Dream House (mine too) that was exhibited for 6 months at that time had a complete Prius plug-in setup. Particularly interesting to me, since I get power from a rural electric coop which has its downtimes, is the use of the Prius to supply electricity to the house if needed. I refer you to this website: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/09/toyota_dream_ho.php Replies to this message: larsb (Jul 24, 2006 10:06 am)
#28 of 74 Re: Plug-in Priuses [idele] by larsb Jul 24, 2006 (10:06 am)
Replying to: idele (Jul 24, 2006 9:12 am) It was "treated as new" because no one at Toyota Corporate had ever announced OFFICIALLY that Toyota was looking into PEVs as an item they would sell as a production car.   This was the first time.
#29 of 74 battery charger for a 2006 prius by michaeltnevill Aug 20, 2006 (8:29 am)
i am about to purchase a 2006 prius,and would like to know if there is a after market charger i could use in my garage at a reasonable price. also would charging the batteries hurt it? and would i have to add additional batteries to attain some results and still be cost efficient-mike please respond-thank you michaeltnevillecomcast.net Replies to this message: terry92270 (Aug 20, 2006 11:46 am) midnightcowboy (Aug 28, 2006 1:00 pm) terry92270 (Aug 28, 2006 1:09 pm) timinalaska (Aug 29, 2006 2:38 pm) battpwr (Aug 29, 2006 8:56 pm) midnightcowboy (Aug 30, 2006 4:21 am) and 5 more...
#30 of 74 Re: battery charger for a 2006 prius [michaeltnevill] by terry92270 Aug 20, 2006 (11:46 am)
Replying to: michaeltnevill (Aug 20, 2006 8:29 am) It would void your warranty, and the Prius, and other Hybrids, are not made to be "topped' off, but rather keep the battery at about 70-75%. This is to give head room for the regenerative breaking system to charge while driving, etc.   To keep it at 100% would actually shorten the battery life and impair the system, I believe.

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