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#66 of 75 Prius::The Holy Grail Of Cars
Mar 07, 2007 (8:44 am)
Actually there's no such thing as the perfect car. Each of us has to search out what fullfills our own particular needs as to transportation. It's just a common factor that "all" vehicles require fuel on an all too often basis. Where as the Prius delivers excellent mpg's and reasonable room in a versital hatchback. Is it perfect? No. But, like I said so many times b/4. How many cars make you smile to and from the gas station.
#67 of 75 Re: Prius::The Holy Grail Of Cars [railroadjames]
Mar 07, 2007 (10:22 am)
"'How many cars make you smile to and from the gas station."
Well, since I periodically go to gas stations, I suppose I smile to and from them also. But in fact I smile every time I get in my own "grail-mobile" (not a guzzler, but not a hybrid either). Different strokes...
#68 of 75 Only 29.8 MPG?
Mar 07, 2007 (2:50 pm)
I just drove my car out of dealer's lot. a 13 mile trip with 29.8MGP. this dissapointed me a lot. in this nice california weather, i am expecting 50mpg.
any tips on that?
#69 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [borabora]
Mar 07, 2007 (4:13 pm)
You have to drive like you are the little old lady from Pasadena to get near to 50 MPG.
#70 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [borabora]
Mar 08, 2007 (7:22 am)
The car is new.
1. You had to charge the "traction battery" up to normal operating state of charge. That takes exra energy.
2. All components of the car need to be broken in - that takes extra energy.
3. You may need to learn to drive for better mileage.
4. The car is still "learning" how to operate efficiently.
5. Tire pressure! Make sure the tires are inflated correctly. Many Prius owners inflate to 42 PSI front, 40 PSI rear, for better fuel economy. At least make sure they are inflated as per the door jamb placard.
6. Were you in "D" or "B"? "B" will substatially lower your mileage if you drive in it. It's for keeping the car under control on very long decents without having to ride the brakes - think mountain passes here.
It's normal for poor mileage when new. If you are basing your entire mileage experience on a 13 mile trip you will be forever disappointed. Way too small sample!
Drivers with a heavy foot -average- 40 to 45 MPG. Drivers who learn how to drive the Prius (takes a few months usually) will get 45 worst case, and 55 typically. Expect lower mileage with heater or A/C on constantly. High speed will also lower mileage - speed greater than 65 MPH.
Finally, how do you know what your mileage was? MFD readout? Wait until you get 3 or 4 tanks under your belt before worrying about calculating mileage. Due to the fuel tank "bladder" you will find it difficult to fill the tank to the same degree of "full" each time. So that's also a false calculation fuel mileage trap you have to watch out for.
#71 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [pathstar1]
Mar 08, 2007 (10:18 am)
thanks for all your tips.
i drove the car for another 30 commuting miles yesterday and today. seems the number gets better. 40mpg average.
then i reset consumption for the last 3 mile really jammed high way, turns out to be 70mpg.
the tip is that, dont step on gas unless you have to...
once the gas engine kicks in, the consumption goes up.
it will be a nice commuter car...
#72 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [gagrice]
Mar 08, 2007 (12:09 pm)
I am inclined to agree that you have to drive something like "the little old lady from Pasadena" to get close to 50 mpg, in the winter at least.
Since I live in Buffalo-NY, severe winters are a fact of life. For the 1700 miles I drove in February 2007, my mpg average was 47. For the 5955 miles I drove between May and September 2006 my mpg average was 57.
These figures are based upon filling the tank to the same exact level each time, i've found it impossible to rely on the fuel consumption trip gauge-it is sometimes 3mpg high,other times 3mpg low.
What are my secrets: disciplining myself to drive 60mph for 80% of my interstate drives. I save my 65mph stints for downhill and wind advantage stretches or when necessary to pass slower traffic. Since I do much nightime driving, this is really not as unreasonable as some might think.
The other is to maximize coasting/lower speed driving, so as to minimize full stops at traffic signals. It makes no sense to speed up only to have to come to a full stop-look ahead and try to predict when the traffic light will change. Anything you can do to minimize accelerating from full stops will in the long run improve your FE.
#73 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [cheryl06prius]
May 14, 2007 (6:34 pm)
Actually, I have never been able to get less than 47mpg. I am able to average around 50, despite having to drive on the highway for more than 20mi of my daily 35mi commute. When I picked up the car in Kansas and drove to Oklahoma, and then on to Dallas, I drove on the highway at no less than 55 and no higher than 105 - I still got 51.3. This is confirmed by the onboard computer against my long hand. I chk'd the tire pressures before I left town and they were adjusted to stock pressures. However, the mileage did drop somewhat when I had to refuel in DFW with the 10% Ethanol blend mandated by the Fed/State. About 2mpg. Gas here is $2.769 if you hunt for it.
#74 of 75 Re: Only 29.8 MPG? [pathstar1]
Mar 11, 2008 (12:31 pm)
Thx for the tip, but what are the lessons involed in knowing the correct way of driving Prius -- pray tell... Thx!