Last post on Apr 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM
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Audi S4, Engine, Oil, Convertible, Sedan
#11 of 20 Re: New to this Forum - Help (Oil leaks and consumption)! [collsy]
Jan 06, 2007 (1:14 pm)
Sounds like you really have a lemon on your hands. Aside from the oil problem that I flagged in the first note of this thread I have not had any other problems (knock wood). The min oil light still comes on after every 1500-2000 miles at which time I put in a quart. I too continue to think this is too much, however I have now called around to a number of different dealerships and they are all consistent with what they say ... about every 1500miles for a quart is normal.
As to what you are being offered, I would actually decline. Going from an S4 to a 3.2 is really taking a step back even if it is an S-line. The engine really is so different that the driving experience is so much less. I would actually try something different , but this depends on how much your current situation has scared you off. Why not ask them to sell you another certified pre-owned S4 ... 2005/2006 or something? Maybe even a sedan instead of a cab. If you got a sedan and it was pre-owned I bet you could almost cover the cost of the car with what your cab is worth assuming they give you the value they are saying.
Either way ... I am also looking around for my next car. While I am somewhat displeased with the oil consumption I can't get over the fact that it is a great car to drive year round. And with the RS4 now out .... I might go Audi again. Actually has anyone seen the latest R&T issue? They gave the S6 the number one slot ahead of the M5 and E63!!
#12 of 20 Re: New to this Forum - Help (Oil leaks and consumption)! [s4lvr]
Jan 07, 2007 (11:03 am)
Mmmm - thanks for your comments. I've taken a look at one other CPO S4 Cab (2005). Perhaps I should request they keep looking, or alternatively give up the convertible roof. That's a hard one though...
I'd be interested to learn what car you decide on next!
#13 of 20 S4 - High Oil Consumption
May 06, 2007 (9:20 am)
I recently purchased a 2003 S4 with 50000 km. Best Audi I've driven thus far! But, the car requires 500ml of oil every 4000-5000 km! There are no visible oil leaks. I have also had the vehicle checked by the Audi Dealership and they say that this is normal.
Please can anyone confirm if this is normal and if not what is the best course of action.
#14 of 20 Re: S4 - High Oil Consumption [josephma1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
May 06, 2007 (9:34 pm)
That sounds perfectly normal to me...that's about one US quart every 6,000 miles. You actually want a little oil up there in the valve area and the amount you are consuming is hardly worth worrying about.
Just keep an eye on it...if the engine starts burning more and more oil faster and faster, and approaches say 1 liter every 3000 km, then I might be concerned.
#15 of 20 Re: New to this Forum - Help (Oil leaks and consumption)! [collsy]
Jan 11, 2008 (12:59 am)
audi leaks from the valve cover gasket so far i had 4 audis and all leaked. If your leak is aft of your front wheels it might be the rear seal on the engine. and that's so much work for them they might wanna give you a new car .
#16 of 20 Re: S4 - High Oil Consumption [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 25, 2010 (12:00 pm)
I too have a 2006 S4 6 speed convertible with what appears to be an oil problem. I have had to add oil as follows after the oil light came:
a quart of oil at 90,727, 91,245 and 92,241 miles
2 quarts at 92,990 miles
a quart at 94,990 miles and 2 quarts at 95,570 miles
At about 92,000 miles my local Audi deal performed a "weight test" in which they weighed the amount of oil burned after I drove the car for 630 miles. They said the car was burning oil within normal limits. This seems wrong and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it.
I park the car in the garage every night and there is no oil on the floor of the garage. Also, during the day I park the car in the same few spaces and, again, there is no evidence of oil on the ground, so it is not leaking oil.
By the way, I am about 4,000 miles away from my warranty expiring.
#17 of 20 Re: S4 - High Oil Consumption [ts02]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 25, 2010 (2:17 pm)
Okay, based on your numbers you have some kind of engine problem and it's time to put on the boxing gloves, before the warranty expires. You should contact the Audi Zone Office and have a factory representative come out and perform a cylinder leakdown test----these amateur chemistry experiments are not going to cut it.
It's possible you have a clogged PCV system which is building excessive combustion pressures in the crankcase---this can also cause oil burning, as can the more dreaded premature engine wear.
I think you really need to get proactive here----one might be able to argue that an engine can run a long long time while burning oil, which is true, but that doesn't make a quart every 1,000 miles "normal limits" on a 4 year old car.
#18 of 20 Re: S4 - High Oil Consumption [ts02]
Jun 25, 2010 (4:55 pm)
Hi ts02 ...
I actually started this thread - almost 4 years ago to the day!! I sold my 2005 S4 cab in April last year. We moved out of the country and i could not take it with me ... hurt to give it up!!!
The problems you describe are very similar to mine ... but worse consumption than i ever had. I would go about 1,500 miles for every quart. But also never any visual marks on the garage floor, no oily substance in the exhaust pipes, etc. I really felt like i got the run-around from the Audi dealer. Answer was always the same ... it is within spec for the engine. They spent the entire summer doing those weight tests .... but always gave the same answer. It got to a point where i was so frustrated i would go up to anyone with an S4 or A8 (same engine) and ask them if they had trouble with their cars and oil consumption. Answer was always no ... so i think it was simply the dealer not wanting to absorb the cost of major repairs. Having said all that ... they were never willing to give me in writing a letter that said 1,500 miles per quart of oil was spec for Audi.
I would push them on giving this to you in writing. Perhaps contact Audi of America and make a stink.
Good luck ...
#19 of 20 Re: S4 - High Oil Consumption [s4lvr]
Nov 02, 2010 (5:12 am)
Thanks for the feedback. Still battling it out with the dealer. Next call will be to Audi of America.
#20 of 20 2009 audi a4 cabriolet
Apr 18, 2011 (3:17 pm)
I bought my car at 13224 ml in US. Dealer changed oil at about 15000ml in June,2010, regular oil change. In November, oil warning came on, called the dealer and they said it is normal and just add 1 quart of oil. I did and another warning came on in January, I put 1quart again. Third warning in March 28, 24374ml. At that time, I called the dealer and notified (Thanks to you guys, I now know that this car has a problem) Dealer was very kind to me and admitted that this car has the oil problem and performed oil weight test and told to bring the car back 650ml from that time. At that time they also changed faulty valve too. Oil weight test came back and now my car has a engine pistol box problem. They ordered the part and I need to bring back in 2 days. I bought 5yrs warranty, but if this problem going to have me going round, I'm thinking getting a legal advice. I really hope this solves the problem though, I love this car so much. I had same car 4yrs ago leased and never had any problem. I'll keep you guys posted as I know more!