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Lexus IS 250 vs. Mercedes C280

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pricing of IS 350 and C350 by ycamp5
Jun 29, 2006 (1:26 pm)
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Lexus IS 350 is $35,400 + fees MSRP $38,234
 
What do you guys think of this deal?
I'm deciding between the lexus and the Mercedes C350 sports sedan for $36,234 MSRP $43,105
 
any input, thanks
 
The maintenance for both cars is equal for the first 30,000 miles. Lexus requires 5000miles maintenace schedule which costs $140 per visit ($500 for 30/60 miles) and Benz requries 13,000 miles schedule of either $234 or $375 A vs B tune ups alternate.
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Re: pricing of IS 350 and C350 [ycamp5] by benzoservceguy
Jun 29, 2006 (11:40 pm)
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Replying to: ycamp5 (Jun 29, 2006 1:26 pm)

Will you lease or buy?
If you lease will you buyout at lease end or just turn in and get another?
The 5K on the LEXUS and the 13K on the BENZ are the MINIMUM maintenance requirements set up by the factory.
Eventhough the BENZ uses Synthetic oil vs. conventional oil in the LEXUS, 13K is way, way, way TOOOO long to go between services. I recommend that with synth you change the oil every 5 to 6K, and with conventional oil every 3K - depending upon driving conditions.
Why spend ALL that $$ on a car and not take good care of it? The maintenance schedules set up by the manufacturer is the MINIMUM amount of service you can do.
As for the maintenance being =, in a perfect world yes, in the real world .. NO.
If you keep the car for 36 months and drive the average of 12K per year, you WILL put at least two sets of brakes on the car and one of those sets you will need to REPLACE (not machine/turn) the rotors (discs)
Then there are tires - low profile, high performance tires will cost you about 1K or more for all 4. And you will need probably, at a minimum, 1 set over the 3yrs (maybe 2 sets - it all depends on how you drive)
And then there's Alignments - which should be done at a minimum 2X per year. Would you want to wear out a set of xpensive front tires just because you didn't want to shell out $150.00 for an alignment? (150.00 to save a 500.00 set of tires .. hummm)
You could always switch to BMW - which includes EVERYTHING xcept tires & gas and physically damaged items that owners create or inflict on their cars.
You need to drive all the cars and then call around to get real life pricing on maintenance or just look here in Edmunds.
Remember, opinions are like .. (well you know) EVERYBODY has one!
 
GOOD LUCK in your quest
 
If it's any consolation I looked at:
BMW 325
Audi A4
Acura TL
MB C350
Lexus IS 250
 
I ended up special ordering (and buying)
IS 250
6 speed manual
Sports Package
Madator Mica Red w/Black Leather interior
 
Do I have any regrets?
NONE
 
(P.S. - look at my screen name)
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Re: pricing of IS 350 and C350 [benzoservceguy] by ycamp5
Jun 30, 2006 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: benzoservceguy (Jun 29, 2006 11:40 pm)

THanks for you input, I guess its lexus then. My question to you is, why didn't you get the IS350 with more comparable hp to what you were looking at vs the IS 250?
 
Did you think the price for the IS 350 was reasonable? $35,400. The MB has such better deals but maybe because they're not doing too well?
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Re: pricing of IS 350 and C350 [ycamp5] by benzoservceguy
Jul 01, 2006 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: ycamp5 (Jun 30, 2006 10:43 am)

The is 350 DOES NOT come in a manual 6 speed tranny
 
Otherwise, I would be driving an IS 350 not an IS 250
 
When they do make the 350 in a 6 speed, I am singing up for that!!!
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Re: Lexus IS250 vs. Mercedes C280 [indexc] by pete51
Jul 02, 2006 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: indexc (Jun 29, 2006 8:44 am)

I am not sure if I am too late, but until you have truly driven the Benz you won't have a real appreciation for the car. The Lexus is a good car. It really is smooth as silk, but if you want a car that wants to be driven then go with the Benz. The Lexus is going to have more gadgets you can visually see, but the Benz is going to do the thing that you can't see. For what it is worth Mercedes does have a lot minor electrical problems,that break because of the complex engineering, but the engine and it's components are almost bullet proof. I have a 97 E320 with 180K. I have had some electrical issues and oil seal leak, but recently (172K) drove an interstate stretch at 95-100 mph and the Benz did not break a sweat, no shakes, no rattles, no out of control suspension. My mother has a 96 C280 with 165K somewhere around 155K some guys in one of the little Tuner Cars wanted to ride my tail and flash me. I had just put on a new set of Michelins and figured what the heck, lets run and we ran for few exits they could never pass me and it was not because they were blocked. Once they got off their exit I went back to normal driving once again the Benz ran with out breaking a sweat handled going in and out of traffic like a sports car, however it is typically driven like a true luxury car for which Mercedes happens to be known. If you are going keep the car I always say go look at a 8+ year old of both cars with the same type mileage same type books and records and drive them an you decide what is the better car. Also look at one of the Lexus and Benz after a major accident and decide which is better. By the way I am very familiar with the Toyota brand, drove one for 6years and mother in law current drives Lexus ES 330 so I am not just "Shootin from the Hip" .
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Re: Lexus IS250 vs. Mercedes C280 [pete51] by rdorris
Sep 04, 2006 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: pete51 (Jul 02, 2006 7:41 pm)

I agree, I too had the same dilemma however the $1000 expense of new tires on the IS250 after only 15K miles was a huge deterrent for me after having been a Lexus RX owner for 5 years, it was a tough choice. However the solid, smooth feel to the Mercedes sold me. The cost of replacing the tires was twice the mileage and 1/2 the $$ on the MB.
I agonized over this decision for weeks and have to say, I enjoy driving the MB so much that it will have to give me problems for me to think I made a mistake. We'll see........
Mercedes was well aware of the problems on the 2001-2004 models and I feel that those issues would certainly have been addressed and corrected with the 07s. Keeping my fingers crossed and ONE PROBLEM and I'll jump back to my Lexus roots!
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Re: Lexus IS250 vs. Mercedes C280 [rdorris] by ajmtbm
Sep 04, 2006 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: rdorris (Sep 04, 2006 7:27 am)

is the huge expense and short mileage on the tires do to the fact that they put performance tires on the vehicle? presumably the you can get better tires that will last longer as replacements, no?
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Re: Lexus IS250 vs. Mercedes C280 [ajmtbm] by rdorris
Sep 05, 2006 (3:00 am)
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Replying to: ajmtbm (Sep 04, 2006 8:35 am)

You can not get around the tire costs, car must have 18 in low profile high performance tires. I personally think $1000 every 15K miles is RIDICULOUS!!!
The main reason I traded my 04 RX was due to needing to replace the tires for $1000 again, 18 in high performance low profiles----All in all this must be factored into the cost of the vehicle which IMO makes another brand with 16 inchers much more attractive. The c280 has 16 in high performance tires but average life of wear is between 25 and 35K with a cost of around $500 to replace. I'm not knocking Lexus as they are GREAT vehicles but the tire replacement issues was a concern for me personally.
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Consider this if you're considering a Lexus by rdorris
Nov 09, 2006 (6:02 am)
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I've owned 3 Lexus' 92 LS400, 01 RX300, 04 RX330 and I want all of you considering a Lexus to know this----Lexus is certainly not "consumer appreciative or friendly". Each time it was time to trade it became increasingly difficult with the pricing, and the shadey money factors the dealer would quote as my credit rating is over 700 I was entitled to much lower rates, they were very unscrupulous and dishonest about these rates and were completely unwilling to move off sticker (you would think a repeat customer would be inheritantly entitled to a better deal), but for the sake of condensing this message, the entire process became more of a nightmare each trade.
  Calls to customer service over any complaint I had during the six year of ownership were ignored. Never any follow-up calls, very rude people at the Lexus Customer Service 800 number. I'm amazed that people think that this vehicle is so great they're willing to put up with this type of treatment. The arrogance of this brand is getting out of control and tolerance.
I bought a Mercedes Benz this round as I was fed up with the Lexus haughtiness and unappreciative attitude and will tell you I made the RIGHT choice.
Mercedes vehicle is far superlative to the Lexus drive and more importantly, Mercedes is an appreciative brand that treats customers with the dignity and appreciation they expect, not to mention MB has sent gifts and mail every week that I've owned the car in nicely packaged boxes printed, "thank you for driving a Mercedes Benz" which include a leather wallet. They have the best product on the market and they're thanking me---what a switch from being a LEXUS owner, Mercedes is FIRST CLASS.
Bottom-line if you want to be appreciated and well taken care of as a customer, drive anything but a LEXUS!!!
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Re: Consider this if you're considering a Lexus [rdorris] by pete51
Nov 21, 2006 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: rdorris (Nov 09, 2006 6:02 am)

Now this is someone that truely understands the Benz experience!

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