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You are in the Lexus ES
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350
#179 of 268 Well...
Sep 24, 2008 (2:13 pm)
I guess the thing is that this is a discussion specifically for the purpose of comparing the top of the line Avalon with the ES 350. I think those who do not feel that is an appropriate comparison should feel free not to participate.
Other comparison topics are welcome. Check out the model listings to see if something suitable is already underway and if you don't see what you'd like, feel free to create it.
#180 of 268 Re: Well... [pat]
Sep 24, 2008 (2:57 pm)
I agree that this is a discussion for comparison between ES and Avalon but still I do not understand that if someone does not feel right about comparing two should not participate. To understand your message better, can I disagree for comparison between Avalon and ES?
#181 of 268 Re: Premium Fuel Lexus Doublespeak [captain2]
Sep 24, 2008 (3:52 pm)
Captain, you know about Toyota pretty well, impressed. I think, I am barred from this discussion or for any car comparison, I suppose, so good luck to all Camry buyers.
#182 of 268 Re: Well... [praz]
Sep 25, 2008 (4:07 am)
You have already made your feelings well known. Thank you for that. But there is no reason to hang around here to keep repeating them.
Let those who want to discuss how these cars compare do so.
#183 of 268 Re: Premium Fuel Lexus Doublespeak [captain2]
Sep 25, 2008 (4:25 am)
Turned out to be a helluva good decision, an engine easily good enough for a multitude of uses, plenty good enough to be fitted in any Lexus,
Don't forget the fact that not only does the 2GR produce more power it does so with better FE than the 3.0/3.3.
the 2GR is - simply one of THE best V6 engines ever made!.
After 28K miles on my Avalon I can't agree more.
#185 of 268 Avalon vs ES350
Jan 25, 2009 (2:07 pm)
I lease a 2005 Limited and love the car. I Test drove an ES before deciding on the Avalon. The limited has an upscale feel and look, although the ES was a bit more refined. My decision to go with the Avalon was based on the size comparasion between the two. Avalon matches up to an LS430 size wise, while the ES comapres to the Camry. Other than the trunk, Avy has more interior room, period. However, now that my lease is about to run out, I am going back to the ES as Toyota has not updated the Avy Nav system and does not offer a back up camera. It appears to me the a fully loaded ES offers considerably more than Avalon. I can live with the slightly smalled ES interior, but had Toyota updated some of the Avy features, I would have stayed with them. Ride wise I rate them very close to the same with respects to quiet, smooth and power.
#186 of 268 Re: Avalon vs ES350 [avalonfan]
Jan 25, 2009 (9:13 pm)
My experience was the same, I went with the 08 Avalon Limited based on interior room. I also liked the dash layout more than that on the ES. My only mild beefs is are the so-so gas mileage (and the too small tank) and the semi-cheesy grey dashboard plastic.
#187 of 268 Re: Preaching to the converted [texases]
Mar 20, 2009 (2:16 pm)
"I want to take friends and clients out without apolgizing for the accomodations."
Apologize that they have to duck their heads a bit to ride in a Lexus? If that was a problem for them, I guess I wouldn't want them in my car. Tell ya what. I discovered long ago that I paid for what I like to drive. If someone is riding in my back seat, I'm doing them a favor by hauling their butt around. If they have to duck their head a bit to get in, and that's unacceptable, they are welcome to drive themselves. The payments come out of my pockets, not theirs. After all, theirs is a very temporary situation. I live with it every day, and there are more than enough compromises in this world than to worry whether someone really likes my back seat. I'm not out to impress someone I may barely know. That being said, I can understand where someone using the vehicle for business, like a realtor, may consider these things.
#188 of 268 Emotional factors: ES 350 vs. Avalon
Mar 29, 2009 (6:25 pm)
I bought my first new car when the ES 350 first came out and I was down to the wire between it and the Avalon. While I was mulling this over and test driving everything again and again while sitting at stop lights I started noticing that those who drove the Avalon were, uh, a bit older than I (I am 50). In my area of Maryland it seems that many of the Avalon drivers fit the over 60 crowd. The nail in the coffin for Avalon occurred when I told my 21 year old car buff son what I was considering and he was adamant that his mom was not ready to join the blue hair set! It made me howl with laughter but more importantly brought to the surface what a tough job these car designers have with the myriad of factors that come into play when one buys a car. BTW, I love my ES 350, especially the heated and ventilated seats, but will probably turn it in when the lease is up and buy a hybrid of some kind.